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[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING]

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RON JAMES: <i>I'm sitting</i>
<i>in these rooms alone</i>

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<i>with people who have run</i>
<i>secret weapons programs,</i>

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<i>interrogated terrorists,</i>

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<i>protected</i>
<i>closely-guarded secrets</i>
<i>as a profession,</i>

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<i>and all I can think about</i>

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is getting them
to tell me something

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<i>they don't want me to know.</i>

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[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]

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It's gonna take somebody
at the executive level to do it,

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or there's gonna be

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a incredible leak somewhere
that's somebody's conscience,

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and they don't end up, um,

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you know, committing suicide
by 12 bullet holes

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to the back of the head
kind of thing.

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[CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING]

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NARRATOR: <i>The UFO reality</i>
<i>can no longer be denied.</i>

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<i>The secret has been</i>
<i>managed and guarded</i>

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<i>by a select few</i>
<i>for over 75 years.</i>

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<i>Advanced technology,</i>

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<i>biological and</i>
<i>physical materials</i>
<i>have been recovered.</i>

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<i>They've been secretly studied</i>
<i>by compartmentalized factions</i>

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<i>within both government</i>
<i>and industry.</i>

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<i>These claims are not new.</i>

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<i>But you are about to see</i>
<i>undeniable evidence</i>

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<i>and previously</i>
<i>unpublished accounts</i>

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<i>that make this case stronger</i>
<i>than ever before.</i>

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<i>Somewhere between</i>
<i>fact and denial,</i>

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<i>you are about to discover</i>

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<i>an accidental truth.</i>

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[RADIO STATIC BUZZING]

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MAN 1 OVER RADIO:
<i>3-7-8-2-0-5-8-4.</i>

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MAN 2: Knees up. Knees up.

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[HELICOPTER HOVERING]

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[FIRE CRACKLING]

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[PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY]

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NARRATOR: <i>In 2017,</i>

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<i>the UFO subject exploded</i>
<i>into the mainstream.</i>

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PILOT 1: <i>There's a whole fleet</i>
<i>of them. Look on the S.A.</i>

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PILOT 2: <i>Whoa! Got him!</i>

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[BOTH LAUGHING AND WHOOPING]

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NARRATOR: The New York Times
<i>broke a front page story</i>

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<i>about a shadowy</i>
<i>government program</i>
<i>studying UFOs.</i>

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October 2017.

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<i>Leslie Kean, who's</i>
<i>a notable expert on UFOs</i>

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she was invited to a very
private conference in Washington

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with Lue Elizondo
and some other people,

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<i>Chris Mellon,</i>
<i>to discuss UFOs.</i>

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Lue Elizondo had just submitted
his resignation in October 2017,

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as the head of this
very secretive
Pentagon UFO office.

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Program was established.

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It was initially
called AAWSAP,

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Advanced Aerospace Weapon
System Applications Program,

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and very quickly
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morphed into the
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AATIP, Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program.

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I was brought in
initially to come in

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to run the counterintelligence
and security piece
for this effort in 2008.

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In 2010, I was asked
by the former director
to run this program.

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The program was then
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and up to the OSD level,

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Office of Secretary of Defense.

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The Pentagon had this secret

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UFO monitoring agency
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<i>New York Times, Politico,</i>
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everyone else covering
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suddenly, with seriousness,

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suddenly talking about
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objects that are supposed
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The government
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Well, I almost crashed my car.

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NARRATOR: <i>Three cryptic videos</i>
<i>were released</i>

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<i>that claimed to show</i>
<i>unknown objects</i>

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<i>operating in military airspace</i>

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<i>while defying known</i>
<i>capabilities of flight</i>

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<i>and physics.</i>

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BLUMENTHAL:
<i>There are more of them</i>
<i>that have not been released.</i>

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<i>These were only snippets,</i>
<i>by the way,</i>

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and we knew that.

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But we were happy to get them.

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And they caused quite a stir.

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NARRATOR: <i>Lue Elizondo</i>
<i>made the media rounds</i>
<i>with shocking statements.</i>

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My personal belief is that

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there is very
compelling evidence that

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we may not be alone.

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Our cosmic neighborhood
may be a hell of a lot bigger.

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And by the way, we might,
might, have neighbors.

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That's a profound moment.

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NARRATOR: <i>At the 2018 symposium</i>

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<i>of The Mutual UFO Network,</i>

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<i>behind closed doors,</i>

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<i>he went beyond</i>
<i>his public statements</i>
<i>to drop a bombshell.</i>

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Sometimes people
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as being fringe
or being out there,

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and all along, you were right.

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NARRATOR: <i>One of the pilots</i>
<i>who engaged the craft,</i>

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<i>Commander David Fravor,</i>

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<i>chimed in with bold statements</i>
<i>inferring otherworldly origins</i>

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<i>of the mysterious phenomenon.</i>

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I believe, as do the other folks
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that what we visually saw,
that it was something
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with complete bewilderment as to

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looking to you for answers.

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They're asking you,
"Sir, what was this?"

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Congress is now looking
at the possibility
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that the military is now
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taken by Navy pilots.

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There's been a sea change.

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Things are changing.

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People are more open
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yeah, maybe we're
not alone in the universe.

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NARRATOR: <i>We were given</i>
<i>an updated phrase</i>
<i>to describe it all.</i>

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<i>Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.</i>

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They're calling them
UAPs sometimes.

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Sometimes UFO, sometimes UAP.

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It's a kind of a rebranding
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and a redefinition
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NARRATOR: <i>A new group called</i>
<i>To The Stars Academy of Arts</i>
<i>and Sciences was introduced.</i>

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We are To The Stars Academy
of Arts and Science.

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<i>A public benefit corporation.</i>

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NARRATOR:
<i>The group was co-founded</i>
<i>by rock star Tom DeLonge.</i>

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I was working my way
through NASA,

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the Department of Defense,

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and various "other" agencies.

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NARRATOR:
<i>Its members spoke out,</i>

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<i>hinting of</i>
<i>unprecedented openness</i>

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<i>and straight answers</i>
<i>about the topic.</i>

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<i>But who are</i>
<i>these people really?</i>

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<i>Dr. Hal Puthoff,</i>
<i>former CIA operations officer.</i>

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<i>Jim Semivan, a 50-year veteran</i>
<i>of NASA, the CIA, and the</i>
<i>National Security Agency.</i>

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<i>Steve Justice,</i>

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<i>former director of</i>
<i>Lockheed Martin Skunk Works.</i>

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<i>Christopher Mellon,</i>
<i>former Undersecretary</i>
<i>of Defense for Intelligence.</i>

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<i>Lue Elizondo,</i>

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<i>fresh from a controversial</i>
<i>Pentagon resignation.</i>

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<i>Was anybody going to</i>
<i>share anything that</i>
<i>brought us concrete answers?</i>

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It was the first time I really
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of the national security
implications of the UFO subject.

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The CIA and all these people
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and other intelligence agencies,

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you're not the right people
to come out with this.

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[CHUCKLES] You're really not.

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Because you're the ones
that have been lying to us
for 70 years.

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We haven't trusted
these individual agencies ever.

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In fact, they've always
teased our community.

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We are dealing with insiders.

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We are dealing with people
who have been in government,

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the military,
the intelligence community,

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have access to
classified information.

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But those people, all of them,

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will have to be very careful.

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For us to just go ahead
and spew out to satisfy
the idle curiosity of a few,

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that's not our job.

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Our job is to protect
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foreign and domestic.

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For what it's worth, I see it
that they were trying to

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make progress on this
within government,

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they took it as
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and then they realized that,

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really, the only way
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was to leave government
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NARRATOR:
<i>Some believe that this new</i>
<i>roll-out of information</i>

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<i>was a cleverly crafted</i>
<i>set of events</i>

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<i>being orchestrated</i>
<i>by hidden hands.</i>

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<i>An evasive faction</i>

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<i>who has controlled</i>
<i>this information for years.</i>

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I'm not a believer
in the conspiracy theory

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that this is some plot to leak
it to <i>The New York Times</i>
and all that.

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I mean, too many elements
came together
completely serendipitously.

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And, you know,
looking back,

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you can, you know,
try to make a case

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that this was all orchestrated
and not at all true.

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I think that this
was definitely something

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that was organized,
thought out long-term.

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Again, I think some...

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I think they know,
and they're trying to
get ahead of something.

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I think... I use the analogy
of a snowball at the top
of a hill,

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and it starts out really small.

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And as it rolls down,
it's going to get bigger
and bigger,

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and I think they're trying
to get ahead of that.

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You can't talk about
this subject with
a government background

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without being the bad guy,

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in some people's minds eye.

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It just comes
with the territory.

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I refuse to discuss
anything classified.

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I've took an oath,
which is, by the way,
a lifelong oath.

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As I've told people before,

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don't ask me because
I'm not going to tell you.

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Lue is in a tough spot,

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because he knows
a lot of things that...

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I mean, he still...
He was...

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He came out of
the Intelligence community

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and he probably still,

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undoubtedly still has
connections to the
Intelligence community.

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Well, you know, so he can't
say everything he knows

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and has been privy to.

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These people promoting this...

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agenda of UFO openness,

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not disclosure, but openness,

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they have enemies
within that establishment.

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So we're not talking
about a unified message.

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It's very uncomfortable.

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Especially if you've
lived a life

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where anonymity
has been your friend.

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We have every right
to know the truth.

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And it's... It's not okay
that they're holding that back.

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It is not
a fun place to be.

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In fact,
if I had any opportunity

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for anybody else to stand up
and take my place...

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I would do it.

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There are a lot of people
that want this information out

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and there are a lot of people
who don't want
this information out.

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The level of pushback that

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Harry Reid shared
with me on camera.

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When he tried to launch
this investigatory arm

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into creating AATIP,

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he said he got so much pushback
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that they, like,
tried to destroy people.

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They really did not
want this to happen.

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NARRATOR:
<i>After the initial media flurry,</i>

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<i>the Pentagon promised a report</i>

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<i>that might shed some light</i>
<i>on the subject.</i>

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JAKE TAPPER:
<i>Do you expect to see</i>
<i>real answers in this report?</i>

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What do you think?

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Look. Honestly,
I don't think so, Jake.

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NARRATOR:
<i>The public only received</i>

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<i>a few pages of</i>
<i>inconclusive information.</i>

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<i>A more elaborate report</i>
<i>was delivered to Congress</i>
<i>behind closed doors.</i>

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<i>Freedom of</i>
<i>Information Act requests,</i>

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<i>known as FOIA requests,</i>
<i>were submitted.</i>

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<i>The responses received</i>
<i>were heavily redacted.</i>

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Three years later,
three and a half years later,

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no new evidence has come out.

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We've got no new videos.

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Nothing like that happened.

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NARRATOR:
<i>Congressman Tim Burchett</i>

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<i>has become</i>
<i>an outspoken crusader</i>
<i>against the secrecy.</i>

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The American public
deserves to know.
We need transparency.

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That's why nobody
trusts government.

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Nobody trusts either party
when it comes down to it.

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NARRATOR:
<i>Instead of new answers,</i>

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<i>we've been given</i>
<i>a whitewashing of the past</i>

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<i>and further reinforcement</i>
<i>of a "New Narrative"</i>

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<i>created to fit the day.</i>

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NARRATOR:
<i>The New Narrative states that</i>

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<i>the UAP's not ours</i>
<i>or any foreign government's.</i>

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<i>They display characteristics</i>
<i>that defy explanation.</i>

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<i>"We are committed</i>
<i>to determining their nature,</i>

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<i>"and assessing</i>
<i>any potential threat."</i>

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<i>There was no official</i>
<i>government study of the topic</i>

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<i>after Project Blue Book</i>
<i>ended in 1969,</i>

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<i>until the AAWSAP program</i>
<i>started in 2004.</i>

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By sort of extracting
a lot of the history out,

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they're able
to make it seem like,

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wow, this is
a real mystery here.

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So, I don't agree with that.

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I think their New Narrative,
I think they have this fear,

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you know, that it's a threat.

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And the word "threat"
kind of bothers me a little bit.

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But I understand that in order
to get government attention,

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they need to call it,
perhaps, a threat.

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So we have an
ongoing situation here.

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This is a defense issue.

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It's an air safety issue.

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It's a national security issue.

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It's a valid issue.

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There is something
flying around in our airspace

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and we don't know what it is
or we're not telling what it is.

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Eighteen months ago,

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if you had asked anyone
in government the official line
on UFOs,

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you would have received
a standard response

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rather like this.

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"There is no current interest
or involvement in the subject.

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"Since the termination
of Blue Book in 1969,

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"nobody in government

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"is researching
or investigating this."

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You know,
the department writ large

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is clearly not interested
in UFOs whatsoever.

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NARRATOR: <i>This story leaves</i>
<i>a gap of over 35 years</i>

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<i>that the government</i>
<i>was supposedly</i>

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<i>not engaged in the study</i>
<i>of the phenomenon.</i>

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<i>The media was quick</i>
<i>to participate</i>
<i>in the new story.</i>

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<i>Were they complicit</i>
<i>in delivering this</i>
<i>new version of the facts?</i>

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There is a risk of believing
the official narrative

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too quickly
and just reporting it.

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There's many steps to go
and it's going to take a while.

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And, you know, they still have
a totally compliant media,

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for the most part.

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I can tell you from my knowledge
of <i>The New York Times.</i>

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<i>The New York Times</i>
is not afraid to
confront the government.

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Having been legal counsel
for <i>The New York Times</i>

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and for NBC News,

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the people on the board
of editors of those things,

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you know, feel themselves to
have a certain patriotic duty,
as they perceive them,

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to not reveal anything
to the American public

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that the National Security State
people don't want revealed.

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So I don't want to be bound

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[CHUCKLES] by what
Danny Sheehan said about his,

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you know, concepts of what
<i>The Times</i> prints and doesn't.

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NARRATOR: <i>This New Narrative</i>
<i> has become the official story.</i>

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<i>It was even stated as fact</i>
<i>by Andre Carson</i>

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<i>at the beginning of the first</i>
<i>congressional UFO hearings,</i>

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00:14:52,126 --> 00:14:53,961
<i>in over 40 years.</i>

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More than 50 years ago,

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00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:59,868
the U.S. Government
ended Project Blue Book.

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An effort to catalog
and understand

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sightings of objects in the air

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that could not otherwise
be explained.

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For more than 20 years,
that project

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had treated unidentified
anomalies in our airspace

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as a national security threat
to be monitored
and investigated.

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In 2017, we learned
for the first time that
the Department of Defense

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had quietly restarted
a similar organization,

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tracking what we now call
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

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NARRATOR:
<i>We've heard all of this before.</i>

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<i>The New Narrative</i>
<i>is really an eerie echo</i>
<i>of 70-year-old events.</i>

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We can say that
the recent sightings
are in no way connected

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with any secret development
by any agency
of the United States.

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Aircraft, we call them aircraft,
are displaying characteristics

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that are not currently
within the U.S. inventory,

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nor in any foreign inventory
that we are aware of.

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Air Force interest
in this problem

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has been due to our
feeling of an obligation

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to identify and analyze,
to the best of our ability,

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00:16:06,935 --> 00:16:10,672
anything in the air
that may have the possibility

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of threat or menace
to the United States.

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We know that our service members
have encountered

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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

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And because UAPs pose

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00:16:21,883 --> 00:16:24,786
potential flight safety
and general security risk,

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we are committed
to a focused effort
to determine their origins.

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However, there have been
a certain percentage
of this volume of reports

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that have been made
by credible observers

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of relatively incredible things.

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It is this group of observations

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00:16:42,770 --> 00:16:46,373
that we now
are attempting to resolve.

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There will be a recognized
concerted effort

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to figure this out.

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NARRATOR: <i>The old story</i>
<i>was repeated almost verbatim</i>
<i>by the current players.</i>

341
00:16:56,651 --> 00:16:59,386
We're still far
from the goal line,

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and there is a lot of positions

343
00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:03,958
that they could
take along the way

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00:17:03,992 --> 00:17:06,661
that still will allow them
to maintain credibility

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and avoid culpability.

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00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:12,299
The media and
the public want more.

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00:17:12,332 --> 00:17:13,768
They want answers.

348
00:17:13,801 --> 00:17:15,637
I'm not sure that
there are going to be
easy answers to this.

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00:17:15,670 --> 00:17:20,808
They're trying to sweep anything
prior to 2004 under the carpet,

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00:17:20,842 --> 00:17:22,510
but we won't let them
because we've got

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00:17:22,544 --> 00:17:25,145
all the historical cases
and those can't go away.

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00:17:25,178 --> 00:17:28,983
They're not only
whitewashing history,
they're denying it.

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00:17:29,017 --> 00:17:32,520
They're only acknowledging
the phenomenon back to 2004.

354
00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:34,956
The government has
a lot to answer for.

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Absolutely right.

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00:17:36,824 --> 00:17:38,826
The history of the subject
has been replete

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with misinformation
and disinformation.

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It's just a complete cover up.

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NARRATOR: <i>What was going on</i>
<i>in the time between the closing</i>
<i>of Project Blue Book</i>

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<i>and the beginning of</i>
<i>the officially announced</i>
<i>UFO programs</i>

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00:17:56,611 --> 00:17:58,478
<i>that we know about today?</i>

362
00:17:58,513 --> 00:17:59,981
<i>Why is it important?</i>

363
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<i>Because in those years,</i>
<i>is where the truth lies.</i>

364
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<i>A truth that many have gone</i>
<i>to great lengths to conceal,</i>
<i>deny, and debunk.</i>

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<i>We start by taking</i>
<i>a closer look</i>

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<i>at the period between</i>
<i>1947 and 2005.</i>

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<i>The existence</i>
<i>of official UFO research</i>

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00:18:16,931 --> 00:18:20,400
<i>and programs by</i>
<i>the U.S. Government</i>
<i>in this time frame</i>

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<i>has been staunchly denied.</i>

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00:18:22,436 --> 00:18:25,138
<i>The facts challenge</i>
<i>that position.</i>

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00:18:25,172 --> 00:18:29,510
<i>In the late 1940s,</i>
<i>the world was recovering</i>
<i>from World War II.</i>

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<i>The military was reorganizing.</i>

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<i>In 1947, the Air Force</i>
<i>was being created</i>

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<i>as a standalone branch</i>
<i>of service.</i>

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<i>The Cold War</i>
<i>and its strategic questions</i>
<i>were looming.</i>

376
00:18:40,788 --> 00:18:42,724
<i>But in the midst</i>
<i>of all of this,</i>

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<i>the United States Army</i>
<i>created what they called</i>

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<i>the Interplanetary</i>
<i>Phenomenon Unit</i>

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<i>of the Scientific</i>
<i>and Technical branch.</i>

380
00:18:50,464 --> 00:18:52,734
<i>Why did they need that?</i>

381
00:18:54,468 --> 00:18:58,906
<i>Numerous FOIA request</i>
<i>verified the existence</i>
<i>of this Army program.</i>

382
00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:01,042
<i>They state that</i>
<i>the unit disbanded</i>

383
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<i>and was folded into</i>
<i>Project Blue Book in the 50s.</i>

384
00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:05,813
<i>But the files of this group</i>

385
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<i>are not part of the official</i>
<i>Project Blue Book Collection.</i>

386
00:19:09,249 --> 00:19:11,119
<i>So where did they go?</i>

387
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<i>During that time,</i>
<i>there was advanced technology</i>
<i>in the possession of Germany.</i>

388
00:19:14,922 --> 00:19:18,526
<i>Scientists were brought over</i>
<i>after the war to continue</i>
<i>the work.</i>

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00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:21,963
<i>Stories of UFOs and</i>
<i>crashes were abundant,</i>

390
00:19:21,996 --> 00:19:26,233
<i>including the famous</i>
<i>Roswell incident of 1947.</i>

391
00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:28,268
<i>The late astronaut</i>
<i>Dr. Edgar Mitchell</i>

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00:19:28,301 --> 00:19:31,639
<i>was given secret information</i>
<i>about events of the time.</i>

393
00:19:31,673 --> 00:19:34,042
<i>In this</i>
<i>never before seen video,</i>

394
00:19:34,075 --> 00:19:36,044
<i>he shares what he was told.</i>

395
00:19:36,077 --> 00:19:37,945
Individuals at the Pentagon,

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00:19:37,979 --> 00:19:41,415
had been attempting
to get into the system

397
00:19:41,448 --> 00:19:42,917
and find out about it,

398
00:19:43,818 --> 00:19:47,121
thus confirming
and had confirmed.

399
00:19:47,155 --> 00:19:48,723
that the Roswell incident
was real.

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00:19:48,756 --> 00:19:53,895
<i>They saw some of the material</i>
<i>from the crashed spacecraft.</i>

401
00:19:53,928 --> 00:19:59,266
Some saw bodies from the beings
that were killed in that crash.

402
00:19:59,299 --> 00:20:02,302
<i>There were some</i>
<i>that saw a live being.</i>

403
00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:07,374
<i>A live being had been</i>
<i>taken away and was</i>
<i>in the system somewhere.</i>

404
00:20:07,407 --> 00:20:11,879
So those were
real life incidents that
were reported to me.

405
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NARRATOR: <i>Many believe</i>
<i>in the formation of a group</i>
<i>called Majestic 12</i>

406
00:20:18,820 --> 00:20:20,688
<i>assembled by President Truman,</i>

407
00:20:20,722 --> 00:20:23,658
<i>to strategize about how</i>
<i>to handle the information</i>

408
00:20:23,691 --> 00:20:25,793
<i>about these encounters</i>
<i>and more.</i>

409
00:20:25,827 --> 00:20:28,029
<i>Documents purport</i>
<i>to detail the creation</i>

410
00:20:28,062 --> 00:20:31,264
<i>and deployment of this group,</i>
<i>but their authenticity</i>

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00:20:31,298 --> 00:20:33,601
<i>is still a hotly debated topic.</i>

412
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:37,004
<i>It makes sense, however,</i>
<i>that under such circumstances,</i>

413
00:20:37,038 --> 00:20:39,607
<i>just such a group</i>
<i>would have been formed.</i>

414
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,542
<i>They would have had</i>
<i>control of the subject</i>

415
00:20:41,576 --> 00:20:43,811
<i>and accountability</i>
<i>to a select few.</i>

416
00:20:43,845 --> 00:20:46,480
<i>If a decision was made</i>
<i>to enact secrecy,</i>

417
00:20:46,514 --> 00:20:48,816
<i>this group would have</i>
<i>made it happen.</i>

418
00:20:50,985 --> 00:20:57,225
<i>After years of UFO hysteria</i>
<i>and speculation between</i>
<i>1947 and 1952,</i>

419
00:20:57,257 --> 00:21:01,428
<i>the government finally said</i>
<i>that they were taking</i>
<i>the subject seriously.</i>

420
00:21:01,461 --> 00:21:02,663
<i>Enter Project Blue Book,</i>

421
00:21:02,697 --> 00:21:03,965
<i>a public program</i>

422
00:21:03,998 --> 00:21:07,034
<i>that was supposed to</i>
<i>shed light on the UFO subject.</i>

423
00:21:07,068 --> 00:21:11,773
<i>Paul Hynek,</i>
<i>son of the late J. Allen Hynek,</i>
<i>shared this.</i>

424
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My father was the
chief scientific consultant

425
00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,079
working alongside
Air Force counterparts.

426
00:21:18,112 --> 00:21:22,049
<i>And it became clear that</i>
<i>the role of Project Blue Book</i>

427
00:21:22,083 --> 00:21:27,688
wasn't to look for the truth,
but was to manufacture answers

428
00:21:27,722 --> 00:21:29,557
and to tamp down hysteria.

429
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:36,164
Somebody called it the
Society for the Explanation
of the Uninvestigated.

430
00:21:36,197 --> 00:21:40,835
<i>My father had to question</i>
<i>whether he should</i>
<i>stay involved.</i>

431
00:21:40,868 --> 00:21:43,204
James McDonald,
one of his colleagues, said,

432
00:21:43,237 --> 00:21:46,974
look, you're being played
a fool by the Air Force,

433
00:21:47,008 --> 00:21:48,609
and my father
thought a lot about it.

434
00:21:48,643 --> 00:21:50,211
He finally decided that

435
00:21:50,244 --> 00:21:53,981
having that
front row center seat
to all these goings on

436
00:21:54,015 --> 00:21:56,784
<i>and being able to</i>
<i>influence things, not control,</i>

437
00:21:56,818 --> 00:21:58,318
<i>was worth the trouble.</i>

438
00:21:58,351 --> 00:22:04,457
But it became increasingly
frustrating for him over time,

439
00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:08,062
as he saw that the Air Force
was not changing their colors.

440
00:22:10,698 --> 00:22:13,067
NARRATOR: <i>J. Allen Hynek</i>
<i>was openly frustrated</i>

441
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,069
<i>by the fact he was</i>
<i>never given access</i>

442
00:22:15,102 --> 00:22:18,739
<i>to what he knew were compelling</i>
<i>events shrouded in secrecy.</i>

443
00:22:18,773 --> 00:22:22,176
<i>It haunted him</i>
<i>until his passing in 1986.</i>

444
00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:26,013
<i>Official Air Force statements</i>
<i>regarding the conclusion</i>
<i>of Blue Book say,</i>

445
00:22:26,047 --> 00:22:28,282
<i>"Since the termination</i>
<i>of Project Blue Book,</i>

446
00:22:28,316 --> 00:22:30,350
<i>"nothing has occurred</i>
<i>that would support</i>

447
00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:34,021
<i>"a resumption of</i>
<i>UFO investigations</i>
<i>by the Air Force."</i>

448
00:22:34,055 --> 00:22:37,225
<i>But another four-year request</i>
<i>revealed a different story.</i>

449
00:22:37,258 --> 00:22:40,695
<i>A 1969 memo from</i>
<i>General Carroll Bolender,</i>

450
00:22:40,728 --> 00:22:43,664
<i>a senior director at Air Force</i>
<i>Research and Development,</i>

451
00:22:43,698 --> 00:22:46,334
<i>stated, "After Blue Book</i>
<i>was dissolved,</i>

452
00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:47,668
<i>"that reports of 'UFOs'</i>

453
00:22:47,702 --> 00:22:49,704
<i>"would still continue</i>
<i>to be handled</i>

454
00:22:49,737 --> 00:22:51,606
<i>"through a standard</i>
<i>Air Force procedure</i>

455
00:22:51,639 --> 00:22:53,140
<i>"designed for this purpose.</i>

456
00:22:53,174 --> 00:22:56,143
<i>"Furthermore, reports of</i>
<i>unidentified flying objects</i>

457
00:22:56,177 --> 00:22:59,146
<i>"which could affect</i>
<i>national security were, are,</i>

458
00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:01,448
<i>"not part of the</i>
<i>Blue Book system."</i>

459
00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:05,586
There was the creation
of the Air Intelligence
Service squadrons,

460
00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:09,422
which were tasked
with going to any spot

461
00:23:09,456 --> 00:23:11,225
in the continental
United States,

462
00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:15,863
within six hours
and picking up debris,

463
00:23:15,897 --> 00:23:21,769
fallen pilots, and also
containing information leak.

464
00:23:21,802 --> 00:23:24,437
And so many people think
that that would have been

465
00:23:24,471 --> 00:23:28,408
the entity or the agency
that gave birth to
the Men in Black.

466
00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:32,647
What seems to be clear
is that there was a bifurcation.

467
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,382
That Project Blue Book
may have started off

468
00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:35,716
as a serious
scientific endeavor,

469
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,386
but as of 1953,
it no longer was,

470
00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:42,223
and there was most likely
the Air Intelligence
Service squadrons

471
00:23:42,256 --> 00:23:43,824
that picked up the banner

472
00:23:43,858 --> 00:23:46,594
of going out and
trying to find saucers

473
00:23:46,627 --> 00:23:49,163
and then hand them off to people

474
00:23:49,196 --> 00:23:51,032
who would try
to reverse-engineer

475
00:23:51,065 --> 00:23:52,934
the propulsion systems,
et cetera.

476
00:23:52,967 --> 00:23:54,769
DON SCHMITT:
<i>General Arthur Exon</i>
<i>described to us</i>

477
00:23:54,802 --> 00:23:56,404
<i>when he was base commander</i>

478
00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:59,674
<i>at Wright-Patterson</i>
<i>Air Force Base in 1964,</i>

479
00:23:59,707 --> 00:24:02,343
<i>that there would be</i>
<i>an ongoing joke</i>

480
00:24:02,376 --> 00:24:05,413
that the Blue Book, you know,
a two-man team would fly off

481
00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:08,115
in a little single engine plane
in one direction,

482
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:11,419
and then the actual project
would arrive from Washington

483
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,922
on a commercial flight,
they would change back
into their uniforms,

484
00:24:14,956 --> 00:24:19,393
and a team of 12-15 officers
would fly off in a jet

485
00:24:19,427 --> 00:24:22,897
to actually conduct
full-scale investigations.

486
00:24:25,266 --> 00:24:27,034
NARRATOR:
<i>Project Blue Book</i>
<i>was headquartered</i>

487
00:24:27,068 --> 00:24:29,036
<i>at Wright-Patterson</i>
<i>Air Force Base,</i>

488
00:24:29,070 --> 00:24:32,073
<i>but some of the other,</i>
<i>more secret UFO programs</i>

489
00:24:32,106 --> 00:24:34,141
<i>seem to have been</i>
<i>located there, too.</i>

490
00:24:34,175 --> 00:24:37,111
<i>One of these is</i>
<i>the mysterious Blue Room,</i>

491
00:24:37,144 --> 00:24:41,282
<i>an underground repository</i>
<i>of recovered technology</i>
<i>and debris.</i>

492
00:24:41,315 --> 00:24:45,286
MICHAEL: <i>This is the location,</i>
<i>allegedly, where they</i>
<i>brought the bodies</i>

493
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:46,988
<i>and the craft from</i>
<i>the Roswell crash</i>

494
00:24:47,021 --> 00:24:50,358
and where all of the other
crash retrievals and bodies,

495
00:24:50,391 --> 00:24:53,561
kind of like they have
a consortium of where
they keep all this.

496
00:24:53,594 --> 00:24:57,865
<i>So you've got the bodies,</i>
<i>you've got the craft,</i>
<i>you've got the debris,</i>

497
00:24:57,898 --> 00:24:59,233
<i>autopsy reports,</i>

498
00:24:59,266 --> 00:25:02,470
<i>the eight-by-ten glossy</i>
<i>black and white photographs,</i>

499
00:25:02,503 --> 00:25:06,207
and the gun camera footage
is all supposed to be kept

500
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,210
at the Blue Room,
some type of
an underground vault

501
00:25:09,243 --> 00:25:13,147
or Building 18 at
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

502
00:25:13,180 --> 00:25:16,751
NARRATOR:
<i>Senator Barry Goldwater</i>
<i>sought confirmation of this.</i>

503
00:25:16,784 --> 00:25:18,786
At Wright-Patterson field,

504
00:25:18,819 --> 00:25:21,489
if you could get
into certain places,

505
00:25:21,522 --> 00:25:23,290
you find out what the Air Force

506
00:25:23,324 --> 00:25:26,093
and the government knows
about UFOs.

507
00:25:26,127 --> 00:25:31,098
Reportedly, a spaceship landed

508
00:25:31,132 --> 00:25:35,036
and it was all hushed up,
quiet, and nobody ever...

509
00:25:35,069 --> 00:25:37,271
I've never heard
about much of it.

510
00:25:38,339 --> 00:25:42,777
I called Curtis LeMay,
and I said, "General,

511
00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:47,048
"I know we have a room
at Wright-Patterson,

512
00:25:47,081 --> 00:25:49,316
"where you put
all the secret stuff.

513
00:25:51,018 --> 00:25:52,253
"Could I go in there?"

514
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:56,123
I've never heard him get mad,

515
00:25:56,157 --> 00:25:58,559
but he got madder
than hell at me.

516
00:25:58,592 --> 00:25:59,827
Cussed me out,

517
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:02,730
said, "Don't ever
ask me that question."

518
00:26:02,763 --> 00:26:06,267
NARRATOR: <i>Supposedly,</i>
<i>the contents of the</i>
<i>Blue Room were filmed.</i>

519
00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:10,104
<i>Exhaustive FOIA requests</i>
<i>finally revealed that this film</i>

520
00:26:10,137 --> 00:26:13,040
<i>did indeed exist,</i>
<i>but was destroyed.</i>

521
00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:19,213
<i>Nick Pope, a longtime</i>
<i>ex-British government pundit</i>
<i>on the topic,</i>

522
00:26:19,246 --> 00:26:22,483
<i>denied official investigation</i>
<i>of the subject for years.</i>

523
00:26:22,517 --> 00:26:23,684
<i>Until he didn't.</i>

524
00:26:23,717 --> 00:26:26,720
The more interesting
UFO sightings are
being looked at,

525
00:26:26,754 --> 00:26:29,356
but not under the auspices

526
00:26:29,390 --> 00:26:32,760
of a formally constituted
UFO research program.

527
00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:36,664
We now know about
a government UFO program,

528
00:26:36,697 --> 00:26:42,636
but we might not know about
the government UFO program.

529
00:26:43,771 --> 00:26:44,573
[DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING]

530
00:26:45,473 --> 00:26:47,208
NARRATOR: <i>Pope has</i>
<i>told a story about</i>

531
00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,710
<i>a picture that hung</i>
<i>on the wall of his office</i>
<i>for years</i>

532
00:26:49,743 --> 00:26:51,112
<i>until being removed.</i>

533
00:26:51,145 --> 00:26:54,381
The Calvine incident
from the United Kingdom,

534
00:26:54,415 --> 00:26:57,418
is one of the
most intriguing sightings

535
00:26:57,451 --> 00:26:59,887
in the British government's
UFO files.

536
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,056
And for some years,

537
00:27:02,089 --> 00:27:06,293
when I was working in
Ministry of Defense
main building on this issue,

538
00:27:06,327 --> 00:27:11,298
we had a blown-up,
poster-sized enlargement

539
00:27:11,332 --> 00:27:15,002
of one of the photos
that was taken.

540
00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:17,138
The story is that two hikers

541
00:27:17,171 --> 00:27:20,407
were out and they saw
a large diamond-shaped UFO.

542
00:27:20,441 --> 00:27:23,944
<i>At one point,</i>
<i>there was a military jet</i>
<i>in the background.</i>

543
00:27:23,978 --> 00:27:27,148
And then the UFO
accelerated away.

544
00:27:27,181 --> 00:27:29,083
<i>We had looked at them</i>
<i>at the Ministry of Defense.</i>

545
00:27:29,116 --> 00:27:35,189
<i>They'd been analyzed by</i>
<i>various intelligence</i>
<i>community imagery analysts.</i>

546
00:27:35,222 --> 00:27:37,024
<i>It was literally a UFO.</i>

547
00:27:37,057 --> 00:27:40,394
<i>The Ministry of Defense</i>
<i>embarked on a campaign</i>

548
00:27:40,427 --> 00:27:43,497
<i>to declassify</i>
<i>and release its UFO files.</i>

549
00:27:43,532 --> 00:27:47,234
<i>Documents about the</i>
<i>Calvine incident emerged,</i>

550
00:27:47,268 --> 00:27:50,704
but the full-size color photos,

551
00:27:50,738 --> 00:27:54,074
the negatives,
the enlarged image
that was on my wall,

552
00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:55,976
gone. Disappeared.

553
00:27:56,010 --> 00:28:00,515
<i>There was an effort to see</i>
<i>if the original photos</i>

554
00:28:00,549 --> 00:28:05,953
might be in the hard copy file
held at the National Archives.

555
00:28:05,986 --> 00:28:08,523
And, apparently,
the hard copy file

556
00:28:08,557 --> 00:28:11,792
will be released in
about the year 2072.

557
00:28:14,161 --> 00:28:15,996
NARRATOR: <i>In an interesting</i>
<i>turn of events,</i>

558
00:28:16,030 --> 00:28:18,132
<i>just as we were</i>
<i>finishing this project,</i>

559
00:28:18,165 --> 00:28:19,500
<i>the picture appeared.</i>

560
00:28:19,534 --> 00:28:22,836
<i>This is the mysterious</i>
<i>Calvine UFO photograph.</i>

561
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:24,405
<i>The facts around</i>
<i>this photograph</i>

562
00:28:24,438 --> 00:28:26,608
<i>strongly suggest</i>
<i>an unknown group</i>

563
00:28:26,641 --> 00:28:29,611
<i>that was able to intercept</i>
<i>the release of this image</i>

564
00:28:29,644 --> 00:28:30,945
<i>and attempt to stop it.</i>

565
00:28:30,978 --> 00:28:32,614
<i>But who are they?</i>

566
00:28:32,647 --> 00:28:34,815
Information in government,

567
00:28:34,848 --> 00:28:37,619
in particularly
intelligence information,

568
00:28:37,652 --> 00:28:42,890
it's highly classified,
deeply compartmentalized,

569
00:28:42,923 --> 00:28:44,559
everyone works in silos.

570
00:28:44,593 --> 00:28:47,494
The left hand often doesn't know
what the right hand's doing.

571
00:28:47,529 --> 00:28:50,297
NARRATOR: <i>We saw an example</i>
<i>of compartmentalization</i>

572
00:28:50,331 --> 00:28:52,701
<i>and the evasion of scrutiny</i>
<i>and straight answers</i>

573
00:28:52,733 --> 00:28:55,570
<i>during the recent</i>
<i>Senate hearings on UFOs.</i>

574
00:28:55,604 --> 00:28:59,273
So you're not aware
of anything in between
Project Blue Book and AATIP?

575
00:28:59,306 --> 00:29:01,342
Hasn't been brought
to my attention.

576
00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:04,646
That data is not within
the holdings of
the UAP task force.

577
00:29:04,679 --> 00:29:06,247
There are many things
that are out there in the ether

578
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,948
that aren't officially
brought to our attention.

579
00:29:07,982 --> 00:29:10,050
GALLAGHER:
How would it have to be
officially brought?

580
00:29:10,084 --> 00:29:11,852
[CHUCKLES] I'm bringing it
to your attention.

581
00:29:11,885 --> 00:29:14,321
Probably a lot of leads
that we would have
to follow up on.

582
00:29:14,355 --> 00:29:16,290
I don't think we have resource
to do that right now.

583
00:29:16,323 --> 00:29:18,459
All I can speak to is, you know,
what's within my cognizance,

584
00:29:18,492 --> 00:29:21,362
the UAP task force,
and we have not looked
at that incident.

585
00:29:21,395 --> 00:29:23,063
And then, finally,
are you aware of a document

586
00:29:23,097 --> 00:29:24,633
that appeared around 2019,

587
00:29:24,666 --> 00:29:28,637
sometimes called the
Admiral Wilson Memo
or E.W. Notes Memo?

588
00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:32,039
-I am... I am not...
-I'm not personally
aware of that.

589
00:29:32,072 --> 00:29:35,644
NARRATOR:
<i>These answers are made possible</i>
<i>by compartmentalization</i>

590
00:29:35,677 --> 00:29:37,612
<i>that aids in deniability.</i>

591
00:29:37,646 --> 00:29:39,079
You can ask the questions,

592
00:29:39,113 --> 00:29:40,814
but who are you going
to ask them of?

593
00:29:40,848 --> 00:29:43,384
And you've got to
make sure you're asking
the right people the questions,

594
00:29:43,417 --> 00:29:45,553
because that's
another problem.

595
00:29:45,587 --> 00:29:47,555
You can ask questions
all day long.

596
00:29:49,923 --> 00:29:53,127
NARRATOR: <i>While we're at it,</i>
<i>what is the Wilson-Davis Memo</i>

597
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,162
<i>that Senator Gallagher</i>
<i>asked about?</i>

598
00:29:55,195 --> 00:30:00,167
It's the leak of 15 pages
of notes by Dr. Eric Davis,

599
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,705
<i>of a meeting he had in 2002</i>
<i>with a retired member</i>

600
00:30:03,738 --> 00:30:06,708
<i>of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,</i>
<i>Admiral Thomas R. Wilson.</i>

601
00:30:06,741 --> 00:30:11,345
<i>And the contents of these notes</i>
<i>are absolutely explosive.</i>

602
00:30:11,378 --> 00:30:13,981
NARRATOR: <i>The Wilson-Davis Memo</i>
<i>was found in the files</i>

603
00:30:14,014 --> 00:30:15,717
<i>of the late Dr. Edgar Mitchell.</i>

604
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,352
It was the existence of
a reverse-engineering program

605
00:30:18,385 --> 00:30:21,623
to reverse-engineer
extraterrestrial technology.

606
00:30:21,656 --> 00:30:23,123
After he learned
about the existence

607
00:30:23,157 --> 00:30:26,994
of a deep classified program
to study ET technology.

608
00:30:27,027 --> 00:30:32,366
And the fact that he had
genuine legal regulatory
oversight over this,

609
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:34,703
how he was denied
access to this program.

610
00:30:34,736 --> 00:30:38,640
We'd retrieved
a functioning craft
that was ET in nature.

611
00:30:38,673 --> 00:30:40,642
I mean,
this is all stated in there.

612
00:30:40,675 --> 00:30:43,578
And that there
had been this long
reverse-engineering program.

613
00:30:43,611 --> 00:30:45,647
But it had gone
into a corporate company,

614
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,082
and the heads of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff

615
00:30:48,115 --> 00:30:49,551
have no business
looking into it.

616
00:30:49,584 --> 00:30:51,786
The memorable quote
on that note is,

617
00:30:51,820 --> 00:30:54,321
<i>"Technology not of this Earth,</i>

618
00:30:54,355 --> 00:30:57,659
<i>"not made by man,</i>
<i>not by human hands."</i>

619
00:30:57,692 --> 00:30:59,561
They said, "No,
you're not read in."

620
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:02,863
NARRATOR: <i>Admiral Wilson denies</i>
<i>the authenticity of the story.</i>

621
00:31:02,896 --> 00:31:05,567
<i>Dr. Eric Davis plays</i>
<i>a significant role</i>

622
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,901
<i>in the programs</i>
<i>we are describing here,</i>

623
00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:09,704
<i>the history and the research.</i>

624
00:31:09,738 --> 00:31:11,271
<i>He said this,</i>

625
00:31:11,305 --> 00:31:16,276
<i>"I am not at liberty</i>
<i>to confirm or verify</i>
<i>any aspect of those notes."</i>

626
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,646
These notes, in my view,

627
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,582
there's no question
about their authenticity.

628
00:31:23,417 --> 00:31:25,452
NARRATOR: <i>In a recent</i>
<i>presentation to Congress,</i>

629
00:31:25,486 --> 00:31:28,021
<i>MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network,</i>

630
00:31:28,055 --> 00:31:32,426
<i>presented a slide pointing out</i>
<i>nearly 20 government agencies</i>

631
00:31:32,459 --> 00:31:36,063
<i>that have some program</i>
<i>or study of UAP.</i>

632
00:31:36,096 --> 00:31:37,498
<i>There were many.</i>

633
00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:40,668
<i>In 1991,</i>

634
00:31:40,702 --> 00:31:42,537
New York Times <i>writer</i>
<i>Howard Blum</i>

635
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:44,539
<i>released the book</i> Out There.

636
00:31:44,572 --> 00:31:47,241
<i>In it,</i>
<i>he detailed an actual group</i>

637
00:31:47,274 --> 00:31:50,177
<i>formed by the Pentagon</i>
<i>to investigate new evidence</i>

638
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:52,946
<i>related to an</i>
<i>extraterrestrial presence.</i>

639
00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:57,251
<i>This group,</i>
<i>referred to in the book</i>
<i>as the UFO Working Group,</i>

640
00:31:57,284 --> 00:31:59,521
<i>was led by</i>
<i>a shadowy army colonel</i>

641
00:31:59,554 --> 00:32:02,524
<i>referred to</i>
<i>as Colonel Phillips.</i>

642
00:32:02,557 --> 00:32:05,359
<i>It is believed that the</i>
<i>mysterious Colonel Phillips</i>

643
00:32:05,392 --> 00:32:09,798
<i>represents a real colonel</i>
<i>who is even more of a mystery.</i>

644
00:32:09,831 --> 00:32:14,268
<i>Colonel John Alexander</i>
<i>is a central figure</i>
<i>in much of this history.</i>

645
00:32:14,301 --> 00:32:19,940
<i>In 1985, he became the director</i>
<i>of advanced concepts</i>
<i>at the U.S. Army Lab.</i>

646
00:32:20,575 --> 00:32:21,576
<i>In 2009,</i>

647
00:32:21,609 --> 00:32:24,779
<i>John Alexander spoke</i>
<i>at the UFOX Conference</i>

648
00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:27,281
<i>and was interviewed</i>
<i>behind the scenes.</i>

649
00:32:27,314 --> 00:32:32,219
What I think needs
to happen at this time
is not disclosure per se,

650
00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:33,788
because I don't think
there is much to disclose.

651
00:32:33,822 --> 00:32:38,058
What I think needs to happen
is we need to make it okay,

652
00:32:38,091 --> 00:32:41,563
permissible
for serious scientists

653
00:32:41,596 --> 00:32:44,097
who want to explore
these fields to do this.

654
00:32:44,131 --> 00:32:47,100
NARRATOR: <i>Unknown at the time</i>
<i>of this original interview,</i>

655
00:32:47,134 --> 00:32:48,435
<i>he had been running a program</i>

656
00:32:48,469 --> 00:32:51,138
<i>exactly like the kind</i>
<i>described in Blum's book.</i>

657
00:32:51,171 --> 00:32:55,810
KEAN:
<i>A bunch of military, aerospace</i>
<i>and government insiders</i>

658
00:32:55,844 --> 00:32:59,112
started with the
Advanced Theoretical Physics
Working Group.

659
00:32:59,146 --> 00:33:02,650
Now, there's even some
evidence that it existed
prior to that.

660
00:33:02,684 --> 00:33:06,521
I ran a program
inside the government,

661
00:33:06,554 --> 00:33:09,691
I had all of the
services involved,

662
00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:13,160
I had many aspects of
the Intelligence community,

663
00:33:13,193 --> 00:33:15,630
I had aerospace engineers.

664
00:33:15,663 --> 00:33:18,766
It was at the
top secret SCI level,

665
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,368
so everybody had
the high clearances.

666
00:33:23,671 --> 00:33:26,240
They had this meeting
at BDM Corporation

667
00:33:26,273 --> 00:33:28,475
in a secure vault room and said,

668
00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:30,812
"We're forming up this group."

669
00:33:30,845 --> 00:33:32,714
And that was in 1985.

670
00:33:32,747 --> 00:33:34,047
NARRATOR:
<i>The real name of the group</i>

671
00:33:34,081 --> 00:33:37,184
<i>was the Advanced Theoretical</i>
<i>Physics Working Group.</i>

672
00:33:37,217 --> 00:33:39,219
<i>The study topics included</i>

673
00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:41,388
<i>Advanced Detector Deployment,</i>

674
00:33:41,421 --> 00:33:45,627
<i>Established Communication,</i>
<i>New Materials,</i>

675
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:48,395
<i>Develop a</i>
<i>"Gravity Interaction System",</i>

676
00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:51,098
<i>"Biological Controls</i>
<i>of Processes".</i>

677
00:33:51,966 --> 00:33:54,002
We start by saying it's real.

678
00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:55,435
So let's be clear.

679
00:33:55,469 --> 00:33:57,037
UFOs are real,

680
00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:58,673
sensor systems picked them up.

681
00:34:01,543 --> 00:34:04,913
UFOs have been around, you know,

682
00:34:04,946 --> 00:34:07,649
since, again,
the beginning of time,

683
00:34:07,682 --> 00:34:10,919
or recorded history
as we know it.

684
00:34:10,952 --> 00:34:14,321
It is a global phenomenon.

685
00:34:16,223 --> 00:34:19,426
One of the things that will
come up in this, undoubtedly,

686
00:34:19,459 --> 00:34:21,128
is the BAASS study

687
00:34:21,161 --> 00:34:23,297
or the one that
Lue Elizondo said

688
00:34:23,330 --> 00:34:26,233
came out in <i>The New York Times.</i>

689
00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:27,501
We spent a lot of time

690
00:34:27,535 --> 00:34:28,903
in the analysis piece of this,

691
00:34:28,937 --> 00:34:31,973
getting experts
within the community,

692
00:34:32,006 --> 00:34:35,309
both the Department of Defense
and the Intelligence community.

693
00:34:35,342 --> 00:34:38,078
It basically followed
the same thing

694
00:34:38,111 --> 00:34:41,448
that I had done
30 years earlier

695
00:34:41,481 --> 00:34:45,587
and found, I think,
basically the same thing.

696
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,321
What we're talking about
is something

697
00:34:47,354 --> 00:34:50,190
that is probably not ours
or adversarial.

698
00:34:50,223 --> 00:34:54,494
Something that we really just
don't know where it's from.

699
00:34:54,529 --> 00:34:56,430
And may have been frankly here
for quite a while.

700
00:34:56,463 --> 00:34:58,465
The things that they knew about

701
00:34:58,498 --> 00:35:02,102
the capabilities of UFOs
were being observed

702
00:35:02,135 --> 00:35:03,136
felt the same.

703
00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:06,774
Really fast,
high speed turns, anti-gravity.

704
00:35:06,808 --> 00:35:09,176
You know, things that
just can't happen.

705
00:35:11,646 --> 00:35:14,247
And first of all,
every sensorial system we have

706
00:35:14,281 --> 00:35:17,351
does pick up UFOs
from time to time.

707
00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:20,622
<i>We have hard craft</i>
<i>more than a mile across,</i>

708
00:35:20,655 --> 00:35:23,992
multi sensor.
I mean, absolutely real.

709
00:35:24,025 --> 00:35:27,629
And thousands and thousands
of variations in between.

710
00:35:27,662 --> 00:35:30,430
UAP observed
and interacting with

711
00:35:30,464 --> 00:35:32,366
and flying over
sensitive military facilities,

712
00:35:32,399 --> 00:35:33,801
and not just ranges,

713
00:35:33,835 --> 00:35:37,170
but some facilities housing
our strategic nuclear forces.

714
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:39,439
One such incident
allegedly occurred

715
00:35:39,473 --> 00:35:41,876
at Malmstrom Air Force Base,

716
00:35:41,909 --> 00:35:44,679
in which ten of
our nuclear ICBMs
were rendered inoperable.

717
00:35:44,712 --> 00:35:46,681
People do look at
some of these things.

718
00:35:46,714 --> 00:35:49,651
Particularly, the incidents
with F <i>aded Giant</i>

719
00:35:49,684 --> 00:35:53,121
that Bob Salas talks about
where you had missiles go down.

720
00:35:53,153 --> 00:35:54,589
Absolutely real.

721
00:35:54,622 --> 00:35:56,958
I have heard stories,
I have not seen
the official data.

722
00:35:56,991 --> 00:35:58,926
No official assessment

723
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,864
that you've done or exist within
DOD that you're aware of

724
00:36:02,897 --> 00:36:04,699
regarding the
Malmstrom incident?

725
00:36:04,732 --> 00:36:06,000
We have not looked
at that incident.

726
00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:07,869
You're the guys
investigating it.

727
00:36:07,902 --> 00:36:09,403
I mean, who else is doing it?

728
00:36:09,436 --> 00:36:14,008
Studied the hell out of it
and end up with,
"Have no idea."

729
00:36:16,944 --> 00:36:18,713
NARRATOR: <i>This stunning</i>
<i>set of revelations</i>

730
00:36:18,746 --> 00:36:21,649
<i>places John Alexander</i>
<i>in the thick of the subject</i>

731
00:36:21,683 --> 00:36:25,653
<i>during the elusive</i>
<i>missing years</i>
<i>in question.</i>

732
00:36:25,687 --> 00:36:28,321
<i>A request for information</i>
<i>on the military background</i>

733
00:36:28,355 --> 00:36:32,325
<i>of Colonel John Alexander</i>
<i>returned an absolute refusal</i>

734
00:36:32,359 --> 00:36:34,394
<i>by the Department</i>
<i>of Army personnel,</i>

735
00:36:34,428 --> 00:36:38,265
<i>to even acknowledge</i>
<i>Colonel Alexander's</i>
<i>military record.</i>

736
00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:43,104
<i>After retiring from the Army,</i>

737
00:36:43,137 --> 00:36:47,041
<i>John Alexander worked</i>
<i>at Los Alamos National Labs.</i>

738
00:36:47,075 --> 00:36:48,543
<i>In 1995,</i>

739
00:36:48,576 --> 00:36:52,580
<i>Alexander took a position</i>
<i>at a new research group</i>
<i>called NIDS.</i>

740
00:36:52,613 --> 00:36:55,783
<i>The National Institute</i>
<i>for Discovery Sciences.</i>

741
00:36:55,817 --> 00:36:59,620
<i>NIDS was founded by a Nevada</i>
<i>billionaire, Robert Bigelow.</i>

742
00:36:59,654 --> 00:37:02,389
These individuals became friends
with Robert Bigelow,

743
00:37:02,422 --> 00:37:03,758
<i>and they became</i>
<i>involved with him.</i>

744
00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:06,627
<i>Shortly after that,</i>
<i>another organization</i>

745
00:37:06,661 --> 00:37:08,129
was formed called NIDS,

746
00:37:08,162 --> 00:37:10,598
National Institute
of Discovery Science.

747
00:37:10,631 --> 00:37:12,066
And Bigelow funded that,

748
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,435
and it involved all these
same people and others.

749
00:37:15,469 --> 00:37:17,304
NARRATOR:
<i>Shortly after forming NIDS,</i>

750
00:37:17,337 --> 00:37:22,242
<i>Robert Bigelow bought the</i>
<i>famous paranormal site known</i>
<i>as Skinwalker Ranch.</i>

751
00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:24,645
<i>John Alexander was there.</i>

752
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:25,880
I was with Bob,

753
00:37:26,714 --> 00:37:28,049
Robert Bigelow who owned it.

754
00:37:28,082 --> 00:37:30,250
I was with Bob the day
he bought the ranch.

755
00:37:30,283 --> 00:37:32,486
Was the first one to,

756
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,655
you know, spend the night.

757
00:37:34,689 --> 00:37:37,024
We spent years looking at that.

758
00:37:37,058 --> 00:37:40,027
NARRATOR: <i>He would go on</i>
<i>to personally witness events</i>

759
00:37:40,061 --> 00:37:42,196
<i>that led him to</i>
<i>startling conclusions</i>

760
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:45,465
<i>about the complexity</i>
<i>of unexplained phenomenon.</i>

761
00:37:45,499 --> 00:37:48,736
There was no single phenomenon
that was happening at the ranch.

762
00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:52,673
The stories are so bizarre,
what you end up, though,

763
00:37:52,707 --> 00:37:56,077
<i>with is something that</i>
<i>is terribly complex,</i>

764
00:37:56,110 --> 00:37:59,080
maybe more complex
than we can imagine.

765
00:38:01,783 --> 00:38:04,051
NARRATOR: <i>It wasn't long</i>
<i>before strange reports</i>

766
00:38:04,085 --> 00:38:06,020
<i>of unusual activity</i>
<i>at the ranch</i>

767
00:38:06,053 --> 00:38:09,891
<i> attracted the attention of the</i>
<i> Defense Intelligence Agency.</i>

768
00:38:09,924 --> 00:38:11,526
You look at the guys involved,

769
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,929
and some of them were,
I mean, we're talking
PhD-level scientists.

770
00:38:14,962 --> 00:38:19,066
NARRATOR: <i>Robert Bigelow</i>
<i>went on to form Bigelow</i>
<i>Advanced Aerospace Studies,</i>

771
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,103
<i>BAASS, as the</i>
<i>evolved version of NIDs.</i>

772
00:38:22,136 --> 00:38:26,607
<i>He was quickly rewarded</i>
<i>with a Defense Intelligence</i>
<i>Agency contract</i>

773
00:38:26,641 --> 00:38:30,845
<i>to study subjects closely tied</i>
<i>to the UAP phenomenon.</i>

774
00:38:30,878 --> 00:38:33,313
<i>According to</i>
<i>the original contract,</i>

775
00:38:33,346 --> 00:38:35,149
<i>some of these topics included,</i>

776
00:38:35,183 --> 00:38:39,954
<i>Lift, Propulsion, Control,</i>
<i>Power Generation,</i>

777
00:38:39,987 --> 00:38:42,156
<i>Spatial/Temporal Translation,</i>

778
00:38:42,190 --> 00:38:45,593
<i>Materials,</i>
<i>Structural Configuration,</i>

779
00:38:45,626 --> 00:38:48,663
<i>Signature Reduction,</i>
<i>Human Interface,</i>

780
00:38:48,696 --> 00:38:51,933
<i>Human Effects, and Armament.</i>

781
00:38:51,966 --> 00:38:54,268
<i>At one point,</i>
<i>BAASS brought on MUFON,</i>

782
00:38:54,302 --> 00:38:55,870
<i>the Mutual UFO Network,</i>

783
00:38:55,903 --> 00:38:58,906
<i>to help in the study</i>
<i>of UFO events around the world.</i>

784
00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:01,709
Richard Lang ran
the program inside MUFON.

785
00:39:01,742 --> 00:39:03,544
When we put this
program together,

786
00:39:03,578 --> 00:39:05,345
basically what they were doing

787
00:39:05,378 --> 00:39:10,151
is they were paying MUFON
for data every month.

788
00:39:10,184 --> 00:39:12,086
<i>At the time</i>
<i>that we put this all together,</i>

789
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,856
<i>we didn't know that the DIA</i>
<i>was funding this.</i>

790
00:39:14,889 --> 00:39:17,390
I knew based on some
of the conversations I had

791
00:39:17,424 --> 00:39:21,394
that there was
somebody funding that,
that wasn't Bigelow,

792
00:39:21,428 --> 00:39:22,597
but I didn't know who it was.

793
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:24,866
I assumed it was
some government agency.

794
00:39:27,134 --> 00:39:29,436
NARRATOR: <i>The BAASS program</i>
<i>was called AAWSAP.</i>

795
00:39:29,469 --> 00:39:33,774
<i>It was the precursor program</i>
<i>to what we now know as AATIP.</i>

796
00:39:33,808 --> 00:39:39,046
<i>Lue Elizondo says</i>
<i>he took over the remains</i>
<i>of the program in 2009.</i>

797
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:44,185
So the initial focus of AATIP,
which was really AAWSAP,

798
00:39:44,218 --> 00:39:46,453
was very broad.

799
00:39:46,486 --> 00:39:50,992
So imagine trying to shoot a fly
with a shotgun, right?

800
00:39:51,959 --> 00:39:53,327
Chances are
you probably hit the fly,

801
00:39:53,361 --> 00:39:55,696
but chances are
you're going to hit a lot more.

802
00:39:55,730 --> 00:39:58,599
So we quickly realized
that we were getting
a lot of information

803
00:39:58,633 --> 00:40:01,335
as a result of this
broad focus very quickly,

804
00:40:01,369 --> 00:40:03,671
and we frankly, just didn't have
the staff to deal with it all.

805
00:40:03,704 --> 00:40:06,140
So a decision was made early on

806
00:40:06,173 --> 00:40:09,810
to focus a program,
the program was
renamed to AATIP,

807
00:40:09,844 --> 00:40:13,147
and really use, let's say,
instead of a shotgun,

808
00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:15,950
maybe we're going to use
a sniper rifle this time, right?

809
00:40:15,983 --> 00:40:19,987
So much more focused
on what it is we were
trying to collect,

810
00:40:20,021 --> 00:40:24,725
and try to digest this elephant,
one bite at a time.

811
00:40:24,759 --> 00:40:27,561
And so the focus
of AATIP was indeed...

812
00:40:27,595 --> 00:40:29,330
Was indeed the phenomenon.

813
00:40:30,998 --> 00:40:33,567
Again, the challenge is,
where do you start?

814
00:40:33,601 --> 00:40:36,337
We have got,
and we may well get,

815
00:40:36,871 --> 00:40:38,105
interesting information,

816
00:40:38,139 --> 00:40:39,707
but we may never get all of it.

817
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:42,376
What I'm afraid happens,
too, is that somebody

818
00:40:42,410 --> 00:40:47,447
that has this knowledge,
passes away or goes on,

819
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,418
and then the new person
coming in doesn't quite

820
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,219
grasp what's going on.

821
00:40:52,253 --> 00:40:56,290
One difficulty with
getting information
from the military is,

822
00:40:56,324 --> 00:40:58,793
those who say don't know.

823
00:40:58,826 --> 00:41:01,461
Those who know don't say.

824
00:41:01,494 --> 00:41:03,764
In other words,
when someone says
that they know everything

825
00:41:03,798 --> 00:41:08,102
about what's happening
with the military,
then don't believe it.

826
00:41:08,135 --> 00:41:10,938
<i>Because maybe there are things</i>
<i>that they don't know.</i>

827
00:41:10,972 --> 00:41:14,474
<i>So I think the mantra here</i>
<i>is "Beware".</i>

828
00:41:14,508 --> 00:41:15,609
That is, be cautious.

829
00:41:15,643 --> 00:41:19,046
Don't believe everything
you hear from the military.

830
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,748
These private corporations
that are running

831
00:41:20,781 --> 00:41:23,117
the special access programs,
they are the Mafia.

832
00:41:24,185 --> 00:41:27,888
They don't want anything
examining what they do.

833
00:41:27,922 --> 00:41:29,790
They've got the future
in their possession.

834
00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:33,561
They've got the most
exotic technology and
science imaginable,

835
00:41:33,594 --> 00:41:35,029
and they have it.

836
00:41:35,062 --> 00:41:37,765
Why would they possibly
want to share it?

837
00:41:37,798 --> 00:41:39,967
Anybody that
does know the truth,

838
00:41:40,001 --> 00:41:41,569
I don't know their name.

839
00:41:41,602 --> 00:41:43,070
You don't know their name.

840
00:41:43,104 --> 00:41:45,006
They are not in
the public right now.

841
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:46,874
They are not speaking
to anybody.

842
00:41:46,907 --> 00:41:48,442
They're not on camera.

843
00:41:48,476 --> 00:41:49,610
You don't know them.

844
00:41:49,643 --> 00:41:51,946
And that's where
the dark programs,
I think, come in.

845
00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,781
The Skunk Works
and things like that.

846
00:41:53,814 --> 00:41:58,219
<i>It's where the government</i>
<i>and big business somehow</i>
<i>are interlocked,</i>

847
00:41:58,252 --> 00:42:02,256
that we don't know
and there's somebody knows.

848
00:42:02,289 --> 00:42:05,259
Somebody is getting that money
and it's going somewhere.

849
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:12,533
When it came to
investigating UFO mystery,

850
00:42:12,566 --> 00:42:14,001
a lot of people used to say

851
00:42:14,035 --> 00:42:17,071
that all roads lead to
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

852
00:42:17,104 --> 00:42:18,406
But in the last few years,

853
00:42:18,439 --> 00:42:21,075
and especially some of
the more controversial subjects,

854
00:42:21,108 --> 00:42:23,744
a lot of the roads
lead right here.

855
00:42:23,778 --> 00:42:26,080
NARRATOR:
<i>Recently declassified documents</i>

856
00:42:26,113 --> 00:42:28,883
<i>now shed light on</i>
<i>the other aspects of BAASS</i>

857
00:42:28,916 --> 00:42:31,252
<i>and information that</i>
<i>may have originated</i>

858
00:42:31,285 --> 00:42:33,754
<i>from some of</i>
<i>these older programs.</i>

859
00:42:33,788 --> 00:42:35,289
<i>Since the early 1900s,</i>

860
00:42:35,322 --> 00:42:38,125
<i>there have been reports</i>
<i>of crashed UFOs.</i>

861
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:39,493
<i>For over a century,</i>

862
00:42:39,528 --> 00:42:42,396
<i>hundreds of witnesses</i>
<i>have shared their accounts.</i>

863
00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:46,000
There were 119 alleged
crash retrieval cases.

864
00:42:46,033 --> 00:42:48,169
All we need is one to be true,

865
00:42:48,202 --> 00:42:50,871
and it's disclosure right there.
All we need is one.

866
00:42:50,905 --> 00:42:53,941
So, some of the cases
that come to mind

867
00:42:53,974 --> 00:42:58,179
<i>are certainly 1941,</i>
<i>Cape Girardeau, Missouri,</i>

868
00:42:58,212 --> 00:43:00,114
<i>where there were</i>
<i>three bodies recovered.</i>

869
00:43:00,147 --> 00:43:01,849
<i>The craft was</i>
<i>recovered as well.</i>

870
00:43:01,882 --> 00:43:05,186
<i>It's alleged that the bodies</i>
<i>in the craft were stored,</i>

871
00:43:05,219 --> 00:43:06,487
<i>not at the Pentagon,</i>

872
00:43:06,521 --> 00:43:08,923
<i>because the Pentagon</i>
<i>didn't exist in '41,</i>

873
00:43:08,956 --> 00:43:12,660
<i>but in the basement</i>
<i>of the Capitol Building</i>
<i>in Washington, D.C.</i>

874
00:43:12,693 --> 00:43:14,895
So that's 1941, Cape Girardeau.

875
00:43:14,929 --> 00:43:16,931
Now, move fast forward
six years,

876
00:43:16,964 --> 00:43:19,433
<i>you've got July 2nd, 1947.</i>

877
00:43:19,467 --> 00:43:21,936
<i>You've got the</i>
<i>Roswell Crash retrieval.</i>

878
00:43:21,969 --> 00:43:23,871
<i>There was a small</i>
<i>egg-shaped craft</i>

879
00:43:23,904 --> 00:43:26,040
<i>the size of a Volkswagen</i>
<i>with a dome on top.</i>

880
00:43:26,073 --> 00:43:27,408
<i>There were</i>
<i>five bodies recovered,</i>

881
00:43:27,441 --> 00:43:29,443
<i>one was still alive,</i>
<i>so that's Roswell.</i>

882
00:43:29,477 --> 00:43:31,479
<i>Move forward in 1953,</i>

883
00:43:31,513 --> 00:43:33,314
<i>you've got the Kingman.</i>

884
00:43:33,347 --> 00:43:38,652
This is not the crash retrieval,
but it is a forced landing.

885
00:43:38,686 --> 00:43:40,555
There were
four beings associated

886
00:43:40,589 --> 00:43:43,257
<i>with that particular</i>
<i>retrieval operation.</i>

887
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:46,595
<i>They were all live,</i>
<i>they did establish contact.</i>

888
00:43:46,627 --> 00:43:49,663
<i>That craft was</i>
<i>allegedly brought to the</i>
<i>remote test site in Nevada.</i>

889
00:43:49,697 --> 00:43:54,301
Now, prior to that,
we've got the
'48 Aztec crash retrieval.

890
00:43:54,335 --> 00:43:58,139
This was a 99.9 foot diameter,
disk-shaped craft,

891
00:43:58,172 --> 00:44:02,511
that had kind of a silver
outer exterior color.

892
00:44:02,544 --> 00:44:05,913
<i>There were two bodies recovered</i>
<i>on the upper dome of the craft</i>

893
00:44:05,946 --> 00:44:09,216
<i>in the central part</i>
<i>of the rim of the craft.</i>
<i>On the interior,</i>

894
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:12,753
<i>there were another 14 bodies</i>
<i>for a grand total of 16 bodies.</i>

895
00:44:12,786 --> 00:44:17,091
<i>That craft was allegedly</i>
<i>brought back to Los Alamos,</i>
<i>reassembled,</i>

896
00:44:17,124 --> 00:44:21,563
<i>and then the retrieval</i>
<i>operation or the reverse</i>
<i>engineering operation</i>

897
00:44:21,596 --> 00:44:22,963
<i>began at that point.</i>

898
00:44:22,997 --> 00:44:25,634
These are some
of the retrieval operations

899
00:44:25,666 --> 00:44:29,638
in cases that come to mind
that, if we could get
one of these,

900
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:34,509
the evidence for one of these,
it would push this field
of ufology forward.

901
00:44:34,543 --> 00:44:38,145
There's a red line
in this whole process that
you're not allowed to cross.

902
00:44:38,179 --> 00:44:41,315
And the red line is, well,
the conspiracy line.

903
00:44:41,348 --> 00:44:43,984
The red line is basically
crash retrievals,

904
00:44:44,018 --> 00:44:46,153
because if you acknowledge

905
00:44:46,187 --> 00:44:48,557
that there had been retrievals
of this technology,

906
00:44:49,123 --> 00:44:50,457
and bodies,

907
00:44:50,491 --> 00:44:53,961
there is no way to avoid
the obvious conclusion

908
00:44:53,994 --> 00:44:55,496
<i>that this is a conspiracy.</i>

909
00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:59,634
Areas of materials recovery
to the extent that
they have been

910
00:44:59,668 --> 00:45:03,270
recovered in crashes,
are heavily classified,

911
00:45:03,304 --> 00:45:05,507
so we don't have access
to that material.

912
00:45:07,875 --> 00:45:10,844
NARRATOR: <i>We know</i>
<i>about programs</i>
<i>that have existed to study</i>

913
00:45:10,878 --> 00:45:14,448
<i>and attempt to</i>
<i>reverse engineer</i>
<i>this technology.</i>

914
00:45:14,481 --> 00:45:17,718
<i>The evidence has been</i>
<i>circumstantial at best.</i>

915
00:45:17,751 --> 00:45:19,420
<i>Until now.</i>

916
00:45:19,453 --> 00:45:22,557
<i>Included in</i>
<i>the 2017 media flurry,</i>

917
00:45:22,591 --> 00:45:25,694
<i>was an additional story</i>
<i>by</i> The New York Times.

918
00:45:25,726 --> 00:45:28,697
And they took the conversation
right to the edge,

919
00:45:28,729 --> 00:45:31,533
of crash retrievals.
Right to the precipice.

920
00:45:31,566 --> 00:45:33,834
If they took one more step,
they're going off that cliff

921
00:45:33,867 --> 00:45:36,437
and we're talking about
genuine UFO cash retrievals.

922
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:38,573
What we do know, and what we put
in <i>The New York Times,</i>

923
00:45:38,607 --> 00:45:42,376
and I'm pretty proud of this
because it was as far as
we could go,

924
00:45:42,409 --> 00:45:48,617
that was fully documented,
was that a congressional
committee's staff

925
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:55,557
were briefed on with slides
referring to material recovery.

926
00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:59,226
Apparent material recovery
from crashed UFOs...

927
00:45:59,994 --> 00:46:02,763
<i>off-Earth, off-planet vehicles.</i>

928
00:46:02,796 --> 00:46:05,667
DOLAN: <i>They quoted</i>
<i>Eric Davis, they quoted</i>
<i>Harry Reid,</i>

929
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:08,637
both very positively

930
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:11,972
about UFO crash...
Can you imagine what that's like

931
00:46:12,006 --> 00:46:14,842
for <i>The New York Times</i>
to talk about
UFO crash retrievals?

932
00:46:14,875 --> 00:46:17,211
NARRATOR: <i>Senator Harry Reid</i>
<i>was quoted as saying</i>

933
00:46:17,244 --> 00:46:20,314
<i>that materials recovered</i>
<i>from off-world craft</i>

934
00:46:20,347 --> 00:46:22,983
<i>were studied as part</i>
<i>of the AAWSAP Program.</i>

935
00:46:23,017 --> 00:46:25,986
<i>After the story broke,</i>
<i>Senator Reid</i>
<i>strongly objected</i>

936
00:46:26,020 --> 00:46:29,691
<i>to some of the wording</i>
<i>of the story</i>
<i>and demanded a retraction.</i>

937
00:46:29,724 --> 00:46:31,892
<i>The verbiage was</i>
<i>changed slightly,</i>

938
00:46:31,925 --> 00:46:35,829
<i>but</i> The Times <i>still sticks by</i>
<i>its original reporting.</i>

939
00:46:35,863 --> 00:46:39,833
Stories in <i>The New York Times</i>
were fully documented,
with named sources.

940
00:46:39,867 --> 00:46:43,237
We didn't put in information
that hid the origin.

941
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:44,606
<i>It was very transparent.</i>

942
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:46,273
<i>We said where</i>
<i>we got the information,</i>

943
00:46:46,307 --> 00:46:47,642
<i>we had briefing slides.</i>

944
00:46:47,676 --> 00:46:50,477
<i>One was put into a story</i>
<i>that we wrote in</i> The Times.

945
00:46:50,512 --> 00:46:53,847
We actually had
the slide, you know,

946
00:46:53,881 --> 00:46:58,285
copied and and pictured
in <i>The New York Times.</i>

947
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:01,523
NARRATOR: <i>Dr Eric Davis</i>
<i>again made an appearance.</i>

948
00:47:01,556 --> 00:47:04,793
<i>This time, it was reported</i>
<i>that he delivered</i>
<i>a presentation</i>

949
00:47:04,825 --> 00:47:06,994
<i>behind the closed doors</i>
<i>of Congress,</i>

950
00:47:07,027 --> 00:47:10,130
<i>acknowledging that some</i>
<i>materials were recovered</i>

951
00:47:10,164 --> 00:47:12,466
<i>from off-world craft.</i>

952
00:47:12,499 --> 00:47:15,637
<i>Dr. Davis is quoted</i>
<i>elsewhere as saying,</i>

953
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:18,673
<i>"We have crash retrievals</i>
<i>and they've been analyzed.</i>

954
00:47:18,707 --> 00:47:22,644
<i>"The program was terminated</i>
<i>for lack of progress</i>
<i>in reverse engineering."</i>

955
00:47:23,578 --> 00:47:25,613
Because there is no way
at that point

956
00:47:25,647 --> 00:47:28,315
that you can pretend
there's something out there,

957
00:47:28,349 --> 00:47:30,918
but we don't know what they are.
Which has been a little

958
00:47:30,951 --> 00:47:33,722
pretend game that everyone's
been playing all this time.

959
00:47:33,755 --> 00:47:35,557
Elizondo plays that game

960
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:36,725
'cause he has to.

961
00:47:36,758 --> 00:47:38,827
'Cause he knows how far
he's allowed to go.

962
00:47:38,859 --> 00:47:41,629
I'm not a whistleblower,
and as far as a leaker,

963
00:47:41,663 --> 00:47:44,131
I'll be damned if someone's
going to call me a leaker,
because a leaker's

964
00:47:44,164 --> 00:47:45,700
somebody who takes
classified information

965
00:47:45,734 --> 00:47:48,369
and provides it
in an unauthorized manner

966
00:47:48,402 --> 00:47:50,638
for the purpose of disclosure.

967
00:47:50,672 --> 00:47:53,006
I've never done that,
and I never will do that.

968
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,610
Do you think
the U.S. Government has

969
00:47:55,643 --> 00:47:58,011
debris from a UFO
in its possession?

970
00:47:58,045 --> 00:48:01,816
Unfortunately, Tucker,
I really have to be careful
of my NDA.

971
00:48:01,850 --> 00:48:04,418
I really can't go into
a lot more detail than that.

972
00:48:04,451 --> 00:48:07,856
-Okay.
-But simply put, yes.

973
00:48:10,324 --> 00:48:12,326
NARRATOR: <i>Chris Melon,</i>
<i>former undersecretary</i>

974
00:48:12,359 --> 00:48:16,997
<i>of Defense for Intelligence,</i>
<i>said in a</i> Washington Post
<i>Op Ed,</i>

975
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:20,401
<i>that the government</i>
<i>had not been studying</i>
<i>the UFO topic,</i>

976
00:48:20,434 --> 00:48:23,638
<i>and because of his position,</i>
<i>he would know if it was.</i>

977
00:48:23,671 --> 00:48:27,975
<i>But when we pressed him on it,</i>
<i>he made a stunning statement.</i>

978
00:48:28,008 --> 00:48:33,313
There's a bona fide
issue there, and I
understand that...

979
00:48:33,347 --> 00:48:36,851
I was part of a process
that was supposedly reviewing

980
00:48:36,885 --> 00:48:40,120
all of the Defense Department
special access programs,

981
00:48:40,154 --> 00:48:44,559
and I'd also...
People don't generally
understand this taxonomy,

982
00:48:44,592 --> 00:48:48,228
but there is
a world of programs within
the Defense Department

983
00:48:48,262 --> 00:48:51,365
that is entirely separate
and distinct from
the Intelligence community,

984
00:48:51,398 --> 00:48:53,568
and is not shared with
the Intelligence community.

985
00:48:53,601 --> 00:48:55,202
And to some extent, vice versa.

986
00:48:55,235 --> 00:48:58,372
In addition,
there's a group of programs at
the Department of Energy,

987
00:48:58,405 --> 00:49:00,809
and again,
those are not generally shared.

988
00:49:00,842 --> 00:49:04,378
So, there's sort of
three galaxies which intersect
to some degree

989
00:49:04,411 --> 00:49:06,881
of very tightly held programs.

990
00:49:06,915 --> 00:49:12,953
I was very deep on
two of the tree,
had some access to the third.

991
00:49:12,986 --> 00:49:16,390
But as I've often said
to people, "You don't know,
what you don't know."

992
00:49:16,423 --> 00:49:22,229
And you know, there is
a possibility that there is
some very small...

993
00:49:22,262 --> 00:49:26,967
tightly held close hold group,
for example, that has
some crash debris or something,

994
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,202
<i>and was working that...</i>

995
00:49:28,235 --> 00:49:30,971
The rest of the department,
and even we didn't know about

996
00:49:31,004 --> 00:49:33,775
at the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee.

997
00:49:35,743 --> 00:49:39,213
So now there are reports
of perhaps debris.

998
00:49:39,246 --> 00:49:42,349
Debris left over from UFOs.

999
00:49:42,382 --> 00:49:45,319
NARRATOR: <i>Even with</i>
<i>thinly veiled admissions</i>
<i>from those in the know,</i>

1000
00:49:45,352 --> 00:49:49,824
<i>and evidence pointing</i>
<i>to corporations having</i>
<i>received materials to study,</i>

1001
00:49:49,858 --> 00:49:53,026
<i>details about any of these</i>
<i>physical materials</i>

1002
00:49:53,060 --> 00:49:54,896
<i>have been unverifiable.</i>

1003
00:49:54,929 --> 00:49:56,931
<i>Recently, that changed.</i>

1004
00:50:01,401 --> 00:50:05,740
UFO investigator Anthony Regalia
finally received a reply

1005
00:50:05,773 --> 00:50:09,644
to a Freedom of Information Act
request that he filed
back in 2017,

1006
00:50:09,677 --> 00:50:15,650
pertaining to "Physical debris
recovered by personnel
of the Department of Defense

1007
00:50:15,683 --> 00:50:19,019
"as residue, flotsam,
shot-off material

1008
00:50:19,052 --> 00:50:22,590
"or crashed UAP,
or unidentified flying objects."

1009
00:50:22,624 --> 00:50:25,292
NARRATOR: <i>After two years</i>
<i>of going back and forth,</i>

1010
00:50:25,325 --> 00:50:27,361
<i>and Ragalia's threat</i>
<i>of lawsuits,</i>

1011
00:50:27,394 --> 00:50:30,430
<i>the DIA admitted that</i>
<i>it had documents</i>

1012
00:50:30,464 --> 00:50:33,902
<i>responsive to the request</i>
<i>on recovered debris,</i>

1013
00:50:33,935 --> 00:50:38,405
<i>and its analysis and a program</i>
<i>under which</i>
<i>it was administered.</i>

1014
00:50:38,438 --> 00:50:43,545
<i>Included in the FOIA release,</i>
<i>are reports about a</i>
<i>variety of advanced materials.</i>

1015
00:50:43,578 --> 00:50:47,281
<i>The reports speculated</i>
<i>about how they may be created,</i>

1016
00:50:47,314 --> 00:50:49,316
<i>and what they may be</i>
<i>capable of.</i>

1017
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:52,620
<i>One is a well-known alloy,</i>
<i>called Nitinol.</i>

1018
00:50:52,654 --> 00:50:56,891
<i>It's a shapeable,</i>
<i>memory retaining</i>
<i>titanium alloy.</i>

1019
00:50:56,925 --> 00:51:01,996
<i>Nitinol enjoys wide use today</i>
<i>in a variety of applications.</i>

1020
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:05,567
<i>But its capabilities bare</i>
<i>similarity to the many accounts</i>

1021
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,202
<i>about the so called</i>
<i>Roswell memory metal.</i>

1022
00:51:09,236 --> 00:51:10,872
Hey, is it from a crash?

1023
00:51:12,472 --> 00:51:13,508
How do you know about that?

1024
00:51:13,541 --> 00:51:14,742
We heard about it on the radio.

1025
00:51:14,776 --> 00:51:16,109
Everybody's talking about it.

1026
00:51:20,147 --> 00:51:21,081
Abracadabra.

1027
00:51:24,151 --> 00:51:26,320
How'd it do that?

1028
00:51:26,353 --> 00:51:30,157
NARRATOR: <i>The origins</i>
<i>of Nitinol help make a case</i>
<i>for stories</i>

1029
00:51:30,190 --> 00:51:31,960
<i>of extraterrestrial technology</i>

1030
00:51:31,993 --> 00:51:35,095
<i>being recovered and delivered</i>
<i>to science and industry.</i>

1031
00:51:35,128 --> 00:51:40,535
<i>It was supposedly invented</i>
<i>in a naval weapons research lab</i>
<i>in 1959.</i>

1032
00:51:40,568 --> 00:51:44,371
<i>But its origins have been</i>
<i>traced back even further,</i>
<i>to a corporation</i>

1033
00:51:44,404 --> 00:51:47,008
<i>called</i>
<i>Battelle Memorial Institute.</i>

1034
00:51:47,041 --> 00:51:49,010
<i>Since the late 1940s,</i>

1035
00:51:49,043 --> 00:51:52,513
<i>Battelle maintained a contract</i>
<i>to analyze metal samples</i>

1036
00:51:52,547 --> 00:51:55,750
<i>provided by Wright Patterson</i>
<i>Air Force Base.</i>

1037
00:51:55,783 --> 00:52:00,521
<i>Another is a class of materials</i>
<i>called metallic glass.</i>

1038
00:52:00,555 --> 00:52:02,255
[COMPUTER BEEPING]

1039
00:52:04,324 --> 00:52:06,628
Transparent aluminum?

1040
00:52:06,661 --> 00:52:09,262
That's the ticket, laddie.

1041
00:52:09,296 --> 00:52:12,634
NARRATOR: <i>The material</i>
<i>described in the Star Trek</i>
<i>film</i> Voyage Home

1042
00:52:12,667 --> 00:52:16,504
<i>in 1986 actually exists.</i>

1043
00:52:16,537 --> 00:52:18,706
<i>We find upon further research,</i>

1044
00:52:18,740 --> 00:52:21,876
<i>that the original patents</i>
<i>for this type of metallic glass</i>

1045
00:52:21,909 --> 00:52:24,846
<i>was initially applied for</i>
<i>in 1981</i>

1046
00:52:24,879 --> 00:52:27,447
<i>by the Raytheon Corporation.</i>

1047
00:52:27,481 --> 00:52:30,450
These guys in the Lockheed
and TRW,

1048
00:52:30,484 --> 00:52:32,954
and McDonnell Douglas
or Boeing,

1049
00:52:33,788 --> 00:52:36,924
General Electric, Raytheon...

1050
00:52:38,358 --> 00:52:42,830
Look, there's no way
they're going to voluntarily
let this happen.

1051
00:52:45,332 --> 00:52:46,601
NARRATOR: <i>There's more.</i>

1052
00:52:46,634 --> 00:52:49,771
<i>We now enter the stunning world</i>
<i>of meta materials.</i>

1053
00:52:49,804 --> 00:52:54,341
<i>In this recording,</i>
<i>from an interview Lue Elizondo</i>
<i>gave to the MUFON journal.</i>

1054
00:52:54,374 --> 00:52:58,478
<i>He discusses the finer points</i>
<i>of the materials claims.</i>

1055
00:52:58,513 --> 00:53:02,650
ELIZONDO: <i>So,</i>
<i>it was never about</i>
<i>unidentified metal alloys.</i>

1056
00:53:02,684 --> 00:53:04,786
<i>Any second year</i>
<i>metal artist will tell you</i>

1057
00:53:04,819 --> 00:53:07,187
<i>elements are elements,</i>
<i>and we can figure it out.</i>

1058
00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:11,425
<i>What was actually discussed</i>
<i>was certain meta materials</i>

1059
00:53:11,458 --> 00:53:18,533
<i>in which they're isotopic</i>
<i>ratios at the molecular level</i>
<i>are so unique,</i>

1060
00:53:18,566 --> 00:53:22,770
<i>and so precise,</i>
<i>based on the complexity</i>

1061
00:53:22,804 --> 00:53:26,974
<i>that the origins of those</i>
<i>materials remain unknown.</i>

1062
00:53:27,008 --> 00:53:30,377
If we do encounter
extraterrestrial materials,

1063
00:53:30,410 --> 00:53:33,915
they would have isotopic ratios
that are not found on the earth

1064
00:53:33,948 --> 00:53:36,450
because of their exposure
to cosmic rays,

1065
00:53:36,483 --> 00:53:40,188
different kinds of manufacturer
they would differ from us.

1066
00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:46,194
And so that's one way to analyze
the fact that these are,
in fact extraterrestrial,

1067
00:53:46,226 --> 00:53:48,896
because they have different
isotopic ratios.

1068
00:53:51,766 --> 00:53:55,103
NARRATOR: <i>There are more</i>
<i>space age materials</i>
<i>described in the reports</i>

1069
00:53:55,136 --> 00:53:57,905
<i>that the Defense Intelligence</i>
<i>Agency acknowledges.</i>

1070
00:53:57,939 --> 00:54:01,008
<i>One type may be</i>
<i>used to slow down light.</i>

1071
00:54:01,042 --> 00:54:03,778
<i>And even bring light</i>
<i>to a complete standstill.</i>

1072
00:54:03,811 --> 00:54:09,684
<i>Another may induce invisibility</i>
<i>by manipulating refraction,</i>
<i>reflectivity,</i>

1073
00:54:09,717 --> 00:54:11,886
<i>and increasing</i>
<i>light absorption.</i>

1074
00:54:11,919 --> 00:54:15,255
Meta materials allow you to,
in principle,

1075
00:54:15,288 --> 00:54:20,027
make objects invisible.
In principle,
allow you to stop light.

1076
00:54:20,061 --> 00:54:22,163
In principle, allow you
to magnify things

1077
00:54:22,196 --> 00:54:25,166
beyond what we can do
with present day technology.

1078
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:27,969
We can do that
in the microwave range.

1079
00:54:28,002 --> 00:54:31,572
We have not yet done it
in the optical frequencies.

1080
00:54:31,606 --> 00:54:34,575
NARRATOR: <i>Another has</i>
<i>the interesting ability</i>
<i>to compress</i>

1081
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:36,511
<i>electromagnetic energy.</i>

1082
00:54:36,544 --> 00:54:38,880
Things that we would
consider impossible

1083
00:54:38,913 --> 00:54:40,882
would become child's play

1084
00:54:40,915 --> 00:54:46,554
if you have a technology
that is centuries
more advanced than us.

1085
00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:50,258
NARRATOR: <i>Still another</i>
<i>exhibits a particular</i>
<i>tunable resonance,</i>

1086
00:54:50,323 --> 00:54:53,326
<i>which was likely determined</i>
<i>during fabrication.</i>

1087
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,664
You see, if these objects
come from a civilization

1088
00:54:56,697 --> 00:55:00,001
more advanced than ours,
they have mastered the art

1089
00:55:00,034 --> 00:55:03,604
of manipulating
individual atoms.

1090
00:55:03,638 --> 00:55:07,208
NARRATOR: <i>The reports</i>
<i>on these materials</i>
<i>have something in common.</i>

1091
00:55:07,241 --> 00:55:10,278
<i>They all talk about</i>
<i>what the materials might do,</i>

1092
00:55:10,310 --> 00:55:12,312
<i>and their possible uses.</i>

1093
00:55:12,345 --> 00:55:14,615
<i>This seems to be</i>
<i>an indirect confirmation</i>

1094
00:55:14,649 --> 00:55:18,451
<i>that we didn't create them,</i>
<i>and we're not sure</i>
<i>what they do.</i>

1095
00:55:20,988 --> 00:55:24,859
And they have to be analyzed
on several levels.

1096
00:55:24,892 --> 00:55:27,695
First, they have to be analyzed
spectroscopically.

1097
00:55:27,728 --> 00:55:29,964
So we know what they're made of.

1098
00:55:29,997 --> 00:55:34,501
So let's say that there is...
There are materials

1099
00:55:34,535 --> 00:55:37,138
that some other civilization
has created

1100
00:55:37,171 --> 00:55:40,407
and that they have
atomic grade printing

1101
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,977
that we don't have today,

1102
00:55:43,010 --> 00:55:46,981
the only way to understand it
is to de-assemble it
atom by atom.

1103
00:55:47,014 --> 00:55:50,618
NARRATOR: <i>Dr. Gary Nolan</i>
<i>is a scientist</i>
<i>at Stanford University.</i>

1104
00:55:50,651 --> 00:55:54,822
<i>He publicly stated that</i>
<i>a new technique</i>
<i>for mass spectrometry,</i>

1105
00:55:54,856 --> 00:55:57,258
<i>that he developed</i>
<i>attracted the attention</i>

1106
00:55:57,291 --> 00:56:00,261
<i>of those in possession</i>
<i>of UFO materials.</i>

1107
00:56:00,294 --> 00:56:03,064
GARY NOLAN: <i>Well, there is</i>
<i>one technology</i>

1108
00:56:03,097 --> 00:56:06,499
that's in my lab called
Secondary Ion Mass Spec,

1109
00:56:06,534 --> 00:56:11,404
and we developed
a company around it
and the technology for using it

1110
00:56:11,438 --> 00:56:15,776
to read biopsy material
from patients, right?

1111
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:19,213
And we had a way of
labeling the biopsies

1112
00:56:19,247 --> 00:56:25,586
with metal tags delivered via
antibodies, and that would
light up the tissue

1113
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:29,857
in a way that would tell you
something about the distribution
of those proteins

1114
00:56:29,891 --> 00:56:32,526
in cancer cells
and immune system cells.

1115
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,263
That's a very
successful technology
that's worked very well.

1116
00:56:35,296 --> 00:56:39,634
It turns out that it was
tuned to look at metals...

1117
00:56:39,667 --> 00:56:42,036
right, because we were
using the metal tags

1118
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:47,074
and so when in discussions
with Jacques and others,

1119
00:56:47,108 --> 00:56:49,243
that they said they had
these pieces of metal.

1120
00:56:49,277 --> 00:56:51,545
Well, I have an instrument
that's perfectly tuned

1121
00:56:51,579 --> 00:56:53,480
to look at metals,
so let's do it.

1122
00:56:53,514 --> 00:56:57,852
But what that stuff consisted of
and why they think
it's off-planet,

1123
00:56:57,885 --> 00:57:00,288
and, you know,
what the testing showed about

1124
00:57:00,321 --> 00:57:04,992
the possibility
that nothing like that
could appear on Earth.

1125
00:57:05,026 --> 00:57:07,862
That's all stuff we were not
able to get access to.

1126
00:57:07,895 --> 00:57:09,096
We don't know.

1127
00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:10,965
NARRATOR: <i>Upon release</i>
<i>of the FOIA request,</i>

1128
00:57:10,998 --> 00:57:15,603
<i>there was evidence of</i>
<i>internal commotion inside</i>
<i>the DIA and the Pentagon.</i>

1129
00:57:15,636 --> 00:57:17,138
You know, the powers that be...

1130
00:57:17,171 --> 00:57:18,572
I mean, there are such people.

1131
00:57:18,606 --> 00:57:20,207
I think they realized

1132
00:57:20,241 --> 00:57:22,009
"All right. You just went,
you went actually,
as far as you can go,

1133
00:57:22,043 --> 00:57:23,544
"and in fact,
you went a little too far.

1134
00:57:23,577 --> 00:57:25,179
"We're going to dial it back."

1135
00:57:25,212 --> 00:57:27,949
NARRATOR: <i>Susan Gough,</i>
<i>a Pentagon spokesperson,</i>

1136
00:57:27,982 --> 00:57:29,650
<i>said that although</i>
<i>she was aware</i>

1137
00:57:29,684 --> 00:57:33,955
<i>of the social media chatter,</i>
<i>the information provided</i>
<i>by the DIA</i>

1138
00:57:33,988 --> 00:57:37,725
<i> actually relates in some way</i>
<i> to an advanced weapons program</i>

1139
00:57:37,758 --> 00:57:39,492
<i>and not UFO items.</i>

1140
00:57:39,527 --> 00:57:41,162
But if you start with
different assumptions

1141
00:57:41,195 --> 00:57:43,064
about how something
might operate,

1142
00:57:43,097 --> 00:57:46,734
you can come up with
things that another

1143
00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:51,906
equally advanced civilization,
America, let's say,
or Western civilization,

1144
00:57:51,939 --> 00:57:53,841
doesn't understand how it works.

1145
00:57:53,874 --> 00:57:56,777
But that doesn't mean
it came from E.T.

1146
00:57:56,811 --> 00:57:59,847
But I suspect that
Freedom of Information Act

1147
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,549
is talking about something
a little different.

1148
00:58:04,652 --> 00:58:07,688
NARRATOR: <i>Some of</i>
<i>the main players</i>
<i>in the material story</i>

1149
00:58:07,722 --> 00:58:12,526
<i>were making new statements</i>
<i>that changed</i>
<i>previously reported facts.</i>

1150
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,361
Right. This is a counter...

1151
00:58:13,394 --> 00:58:15,329
This is
<i>The Empire Strikes Back.</i>

1152
00:58:15,363 --> 00:58:18,933
This is what we're seeing.
You're seeing
the major establishment,

1153
00:58:18,966 --> 00:58:21,068
which was on the back foot
for over three years

1154
00:58:21,102 --> 00:58:24,071
because of the offensive of
the UFO faction.

1155
00:58:24,105 --> 00:58:26,941
They were on retreat.
They've gathered
their resources.

1156
00:58:26,974 --> 00:58:28,976
They're like, you know,
"We don't really want...

1157
00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:31,512
"We can't go any farther
than we've gone."

1158
00:58:31,545 --> 00:58:34,181
Harry Reid walked it back
as far as with
<i>The New York Times</i>

1159
00:58:34,215 --> 00:58:39,086
about Lockheed
having artifacts and so,
they get these phone calls.

1160
00:58:40,021 --> 00:58:41,789
I mean, why else...

1161
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,825
You know, catch yourself
after the fact and go,

1162
00:58:44,859 --> 00:58:45,726
"I should have never said that."

1163
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,961
And there's a pattern here.

1164
00:58:46,994 --> 00:58:52,867
It always pertains to
physical evidence.

1165
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:54,602
And in our
<i>New York Times</i> story,

1166
00:58:54,635 --> 00:58:57,438
we said that a hangar was built

1167
00:58:58,606 --> 00:59:03,677
to contain materials, okay.

1168
00:59:03,711 --> 00:59:08,082
We didn't say that materials
were obtained
and put in the hangar.

1169
00:59:08,115 --> 00:59:10,519
You did an interview with
Jesse Michaels.

1170
00:59:10,551 --> 00:59:14,121
-In that interview, you laid out
some of the materials.
-Mmm-hmm.

1171
00:59:14,155 --> 00:59:16,490
Very excitingly,
we have parts...

1172
00:59:16,525 --> 00:59:19,727
Okay, the parts were
a little anti-climactic
and small,

1173
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,030
but he claims to have
much bigger parts
that we can't see

1174
00:59:23,064 --> 00:59:25,399
due to national security
sensitivities.

1175
00:59:25,433 --> 00:59:28,402
But then when you did
the interview with Lex,

1176
00:59:28,436 --> 00:59:32,173
you said that she had materials
just from, like, Jacques Vilet

1177
00:59:32,206 --> 00:59:33,874
which obviously
wouldn't be classified,

1178
00:59:33,908 --> 00:59:36,511
and from TTSA,
which wouldn't be classified.

1179
00:59:36,545 --> 00:59:41,449
There's two classes of materials
that I've been given by people,

1180
00:59:41,482 --> 00:59:43,884
and they're not given by, like,
the government or anything.

1181
00:59:43,918 --> 00:59:46,020
So have you studied
classified materials,

1182
00:59:46,053 --> 00:59:47,188
but you just don't have them?

1183
00:59:47,221 --> 00:59:48,789
I just shouldn't
say anything more.

1184
00:59:48,823 --> 00:59:49,990
You shouldn't say
anything about that.

1185
00:59:50,024 --> 00:59:51,459
Okay, all right.

1186
00:59:51,492 --> 00:59:53,194
You can put that on there.
I just can't say anything more.

1187
00:59:53,227 --> 00:59:54,462
Right. No, that's fine.

1188
00:59:54,495 --> 00:59:57,264
It might have been
an accidental truth moment.

1189
01:00:01,735 --> 01:00:06,707
NARRATOR: <i>FOIA responses</i>
<i>are based on reacting</i>
<i>to very specific wording.</i>

1190
01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:10,411
<i>The FOIA response from the DIA</i>
<i>specifically refers</i>

1191
01:00:10,444 --> 01:00:14,882
<i>to recovered materials from</i>
<i>UFOs being studied</i>
<i>at Bigelow Aerospace.</i>

1192
01:00:14,915 --> 01:00:20,087
<i>This is official confirmation</i>
<i>that these studies</i>
<i>indeed occurred.</i>

1193
01:00:20,121 --> 01:00:21,922
Bigelow Aerospace is massive.

1194
01:00:21,956 --> 01:00:25,059
It's surrounded on most sides
by these gigantic vacant lots.

1195
01:00:25,092 --> 01:00:29,163
It's surrounded by
multiple layers of fencing,
including barbed wire,

1196
01:00:29,196 --> 01:00:33,100
video surveillance,
24-hour security guards
everywhere.

1197
01:00:33,134 --> 01:00:35,269
This place is a fortress.

1198
01:00:35,302 --> 01:00:40,542
NARRATOR: <i>Multiple reports also</i>
<i> seemed to confirm the presence</i>
<i> of materials at the facility.</i>

1199
01:00:40,575 --> 01:00:44,211
<i>But after the release</i>
<i>of the documents,</i>
<i>the story changed.</i>

1200
01:00:44,245 --> 01:00:48,349
REPORTER: <i>For years,</i>
<i>one of the secret studies</i>
<i>was carried out by BAASS,</i>

1201
01:00:48,382 --> 01:00:51,919
<i>a Las Vegas operation</i>
<i>hidden within</i>
<i>Bigelow Aerospace.</i>

1202
01:00:51,952 --> 01:00:55,189
<i>Documents first reported</i>
<i>by the I-Team show that BAASS</i>

1203
01:00:55,222 --> 01:00:58,959
<i>landed a contract with the DIA,</i>
<i>and one of the objectives</i>

1204
01:00:58,993 --> 01:01:01,596
<i>was to study</i>
<i>so called meta materials.</i>

1205
01:01:01,630 --> 01:01:03,898
<i>Multiple sources</i>
<i>have confirmed to us</i>

1206
01:01:03,931 --> 01:01:07,401
<i>there was a weird piece</i>
<i>of something at</i>
<i>the Bigelow plant.</i>

1207
01:01:07,434 --> 01:01:11,772
<i>New York Times</i> reported
that you modified
your facility here

1208
01:01:11,805 --> 01:01:15,142
in order to house some material
from somewhere else.

1209
01:01:15,709 --> 01:01:16,645
Did you ever have it?

1210
01:01:18,078 --> 01:01:20,080
-Never had any.
-Did you ever see it?

1211
01:01:20,681 --> 01:01:22,917
Um...

1212
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:26,987
But... I... you know,
do you see...

1213
01:01:27,021 --> 01:01:28,155
Do you see...

1214
01:01:30,858 --> 01:01:36,030
It's the old <i>Raiders of</i>
<i>the Lost Ark</i> warehouse scene.

1215
01:01:36,063 --> 01:01:37,698
"We've got our top people
working on it."

1216
01:01:37,731 --> 01:01:39,700
"Who are your top people?"
"Oh, they're top."

1217
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:43,837
NARRATOR: <i>In March 2022,</i>
<i>the Defense Intelligence Agency</i>

1218
01:01:43,871 --> 01:01:47,308
<i>responded to</i>
<i>another FOIA request</i>
<i>that demanded information</i>

1219
01:01:47,341 --> 01:01:50,411
<i>about the work of AATIP</i>
<i>and its previous versions.</i>

1220
01:01:50,444 --> 01:01:55,416
<i>The result was 1500 pages</i>
<i>that included</i>
<i>38 independent papers</i>

1221
01:01:55,449 --> 01:01:57,985
<i>about potential</i>
<i>advanced technology.</i>

1222
01:01:58,018 --> 01:02:02,156
<i>The authors of</i>
<i>some of these reports,</i>
<i>are many of the same people</i>

1223
01:02:02,189 --> 01:02:05,025
<i>that have been involved</i>
<i>in secret UFO programs</i>

1224
01:02:05,059 --> 01:02:07,328
<i>all the way back</i>
<i>to the late 1960s.</i>

1225
01:02:07,361 --> 01:02:12,667
<i>These reports came in the form</i>
<i>of defense intelligence</i>
<i>reference documents.</i>

1226
01:02:12,701 --> 01:02:15,436
<i>Some of the technologies</i>
<i>that were explored</i>

1227
01:02:15,469 --> 01:02:18,439
<i>include advanced</i>
<i>nuclear propulsion,</i>

1228
01:02:18,472 --> 01:02:21,509
<i>for manned deep space missions.</i>

1229
01:02:21,543 --> 01:02:24,278
<i>Aneutronic Fusion Propulsion,</i>

1230
01:02:24,311 --> 01:02:28,182
<i>Pulsed High-Power</i>
<i>Microwave Technology,</i>

1231
01:02:28,215 --> 01:02:31,686
<i>Antigravity for</i>
<i>Aerospace Applications.</i>

1232
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,222
I think when talking about
extraterrestrial civilizations,

1233
01:02:35,256 --> 01:02:37,958
we have to be open
to the fact that
their technology

1234
01:02:37,992 --> 01:02:42,229
is thousands of years
more advanced
than our technology.

1235
01:02:42,263 --> 01:02:45,533
But then the question is,
is it possible that we,

1236
01:02:45,567 --> 01:02:51,038
that we humans can also partake
of some of these
advanced technologies?

1237
01:02:51,071 --> 01:02:54,942
NARRATOR: <i>Space-Communication</i>
<i>Implications of</i>
<i>Quantum Entanglement</i>

1238
01:02:54,975 --> 01:03:01,015
<i>and Nonlocality,</i>
<i>High-Frequency Gravitational</i>
<i>Wave Communications.</i>

1239
01:03:01,048 --> 01:03:03,851
I take two objects,

1240
01:03:03,884 --> 01:03:07,321
two particles that are
quantumly entangled,

1241
01:03:07,354 --> 01:03:10,759
and if I do something
to this one, this one responds.

1242
01:03:10,791 --> 01:03:14,261
And if you separate those two
by a foot...

1243
01:03:14,295 --> 01:03:16,531
when I do something here,
something happens here.

1244
01:03:16,564 --> 01:03:17,965
But something
even more magical happens

1245
01:03:17,998 --> 01:03:20,934
that when I take these objects,
and I put them one here

1246
01:03:20,968 --> 01:03:23,672
and one at the farthest end
of the visible universe,

1247
01:03:23,705 --> 01:03:26,840
that direction,
13.5 billion light years,

1248
01:03:26,874 --> 01:03:28,075
and I take the other particle,

1249
01:03:28,108 --> 01:03:32,614
I put it in that direction,
13.5 billion light years away,

1250
01:03:32,647 --> 01:03:34,415
when I do this,

1251
01:03:34,448 --> 01:03:37,885
this one responds
instantaneously.

1252
01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:42,557
NARRATOR:
<i>Traversable Wormholes,</i>
<i>Stargates and Negative Energy.</i>

1253
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:46,026
Special relativity says
you cannot break
the light barrier.

1254
01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:49,531
But special relativity
has a loophole.

1255
01:03:49,564 --> 01:03:52,066
The loophole is
general relativity,

1256
01:03:52,099 --> 01:03:53,668
the theory of gravity,

1257
01:03:53,702 --> 01:03:57,338
whereby you can bend time
and space into a pretzel

1258
01:03:57,371 --> 01:04:00,174
if you have enough matter
and energy.

1259
01:04:00,207 --> 01:04:06,080
<i>An energy which we won't have,</i>
<i>perhaps for another 100,000</i>
<i>to one million years.</i>

1260
01:04:06,113 --> 01:04:08,349
<i>So it's not for us.</i>

1261
01:04:08,382 --> 01:04:11,251
<i>Perhaps for an</i>
<i>extraterrestrial civilization,</i>

1262
01:04:11,285 --> 01:04:13,287
but it's not for us.

1263
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,523
NARRATOR: <i>Warp Drive,</i>
<i>Dark Energy</i>

1264
01:04:15,557 --> 01:04:18,292
<i>and the manipulation</i>
<i>of extra dimensions.</i>

1265
01:04:18,325 --> 01:04:23,732
We have to be open
to the possibility that there
are other dimensions,

1266
01:04:23,765 --> 01:04:25,199
and shortcuts.

1267
01:04:25,232 --> 01:04:29,036
Perhaps shortcuts between
different universes.

1268
01:04:29,069 --> 01:04:30,371
<i>Now, of course, moving through</i>

1269
01:04:30,404 --> 01:04:33,240
these higher dimensions,
would require a technology

1270
01:04:33,273 --> 01:04:36,143
much more advanced
than anything we have.

1271
01:04:36,176 --> 01:04:40,414
NARRATOR: <i>Concepts for</i>
<i>extracting energy from</i>
<i>the quantum vacuum.</i>

1272
01:04:40,447 --> 01:04:42,751
You would have to be
a very advanced civilization

1273
01:04:42,784 --> 01:04:46,554
to get net usable energy
from nothing.

1274
01:04:46,588 --> 01:04:48,790
In other words, it's not for us.

1275
01:04:48,823 --> 01:04:52,694
That doesn't mean
an advanced civilization
can't do it.

1276
01:04:52,727 --> 01:04:56,096
NARRATOR: <i>Quantum computing,</i>
<i>and utilizing</i>
<i>organic molecules</i>

1277
01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:58,633
<i>in automation technology.</i>

1278
01:04:58,666 --> 01:05:02,302
<i>Technological approaches</i>
<i>to controlling</i>
<i>external devices,</i>

1279
01:05:02,336 --> 01:05:04,938
<i>in the absence of limb</i>
<i>operated interfaces.</i>

1280
01:05:04,972 --> 01:05:09,476
Our most advanced understanding
of the brain comes from BCI,

1281
01:05:09,511 --> 01:05:12,212
Brain Computer Interface.

1282
01:05:12,246 --> 01:05:15,949
<i>We can take a chip, put it on</i>
<i>the surface of the brain,</i>

1283
01:05:15,983 --> 01:05:19,019
<i>have that chip connected</i>
<i>to a laptop computer</i>

1284
01:05:19,052 --> 01:05:23,625
<i>that then analyzes the impulses</i>
<i>of the brain and deciphers it,</i>

1285
01:05:23,658 --> 01:05:26,694
<i>and then uses it</i>
<i>to control something.</i>

1286
01:05:26,728 --> 01:05:29,731
And so you can imagine
what we can do today

1287
01:05:29,764 --> 01:05:33,066
and then extrapolate
to the future.

1288
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:36,704
NARRATOR: <i>Aerospace</i>
<i>applications of</i>
<i>programmable matter.</i>

1289
01:05:36,738 --> 01:05:40,575
If you could design something,
atom by atom,

1290
01:05:40,608 --> 01:05:44,011
and position things
atom by atom,

1291
01:05:44,044 --> 01:05:47,582
then there's a lot more
we could do with
material science

1292
01:05:47,615 --> 01:05:49,450
than we can do today.

1293
01:05:49,483 --> 01:05:54,656
NARRATOR: <i>Ultra capacitors</i>
<i>as energy and power</i>
<i>storage devices.</i>

1294
01:05:54,689 --> 01:05:57,759
<i>Role of superconductors</i>
<i>in gravity research.</i>

1295
01:05:57,792 --> 01:06:04,231
Most of what we create today,
in even the superconductor areas

1296
01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:07,034
is basically recipes.

1297
01:06:07,067 --> 01:06:08,770
They are not designs.

1298
01:06:08,803 --> 01:06:12,907
NARRATOR: <i>Many of these</i>
<i>technologies are beyond</i>
<i>the realm of current science.</i>

1299
01:06:12,941 --> 01:06:15,142
<i>These technologies</i>
<i>are discussed</i>

1300
01:06:15,175 --> 01:06:19,046
<i>as if someone knows that</i>
<i>they are entirely possible,</i>

1301
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:22,249
<i>even in some stage</i>
<i>of successful development.</i>

1302
01:06:22,282 --> 01:06:25,854
I will tell you unequivocally
if a man like Robert Bigelow

1303
01:06:25,887 --> 01:06:29,591
were to ask you,
to come on board
and to do something,

1304
01:06:29,624 --> 01:06:35,395
man, I would do it
in the blink of an eye.

1305
01:06:35,429 --> 01:06:37,397
<i>It would be almost reflexive.</i>

1306
01:06:37,431 --> 01:06:39,199
<i>When do we start? Let's go.</i>

1307
01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:41,468
He's a good man,
and he's also a patriot.

1308
01:06:41,502 --> 01:06:43,771
Machinery really does exist.

1309
01:06:45,038 --> 01:06:46,975
Does exist.

1310
01:06:47,007 --> 01:06:53,113
<i>That the problem has been</i>
<i>the inability to back engineer</i>

1311
01:06:53,146 --> 01:06:57,919
and I kind of think
that some...

1312
01:06:57,952 --> 01:07:01,455
Some things require
a weightless environment.

1313
01:07:10,732 --> 01:07:12,432
NARRATOR: <i>It is</i>
<i>generally accepted</i>

1314
01:07:12,466 --> 01:07:15,502
<i>that the New Narrative</i>
<i>broke in late 2017.</i>

1315
01:07:15,537 --> 01:07:19,774
<i>It was actually</i>
<i>Robert Bigelow, who made</i>
<i>spellbinding revelations</i>

1316
01:07:19,807 --> 01:07:24,044
<i>before anybody knew</i>
<i>that he was involved</i>
<i>in government contracts</i>

1317
01:07:24,077 --> 01:07:25,613
<i>to study UFOs.</i>

1318
01:07:29,316 --> 01:07:30,852
Do you believe in aliens?

1319
01:07:30,885 --> 01:07:33,721
I am absolutely convinced.
That's all there is to it.

1320
01:07:33,755 --> 01:07:36,724
Do you also believe
that UFOs have come to Earth?

1321
01:07:36,758 --> 01:07:40,327
There has been,
and is an existing presence
an E.T. presence.

1322
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,530
You have the interview
that Robert Bigelow did
on <i>60 Minutes.</i>

1323
01:07:42,564 --> 01:07:45,399
Really, an amazing interview.

1324
01:07:45,432 --> 01:07:49,904
This is one of the most
knowledgeable people
on this planet,

1325
01:07:49,938 --> 01:07:52,205
in my view,
on the subject of UFOs,

1326
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:55,409
He's also a billionaire,
and he's also got a lot of
influence in this world.

1327
01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:58,046
And here he is saying,
aliens are real

1328
01:07:58,078 --> 01:08:00,414
and indeed they are actually
walking among us.

1329
01:08:00,447 --> 01:08:03,017
NARRATOR:
<i>His unshakable statement</i>
<i>regarding the reality</i>

1330
01:08:03,051 --> 01:08:05,419
<i>of an extraterrestrial</i>
<i>presence,</i>

1331
01:08:05,452 --> 01:08:07,989
<i>drew some media reaction.</i>

1332
01:08:08,022 --> 01:08:10,525
<i>Its significance did not</i>
<i>become clear</i>

1333
01:08:10,558 --> 01:08:13,093
<i>until the story of</i>
<i>Bigelow Aerospace</i>

1334
01:08:13,126 --> 01:08:16,631
<i>and its role in AATIP</i>
<i>began to unfold.</i>

1335
01:08:16,664 --> 01:08:21,435
<i>The New York Times</i> came out
with a couple of articles
essentially downplaying any E.T.

1336
01:08:21,468 --> 01:08:23,103
component of these sightings,

1337
01:08:23,136 --> 01:08:27,075
but also playing down the fact
that they may be
Russian or Chinese

1338
01:08:27,107 --> 01:08:34,749
and also playing down the fact
that these are advanced
U.S. classified prototypes.

1339
01:08:34,782 --> 01:08:36,383
If they're going to play
all of those things down,

1340
01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:41,321
then I would ask,
what gets played up?
Because there is nothing left.

1341
01:08:41,355 --> 01:08:44,157
NARRATOR: <i>Confronted with</i>
<i>the challenge of weaving</i>
<i>Robert Bigelow's</i>

1342
01:08:44,191 --> 01:08:45,693
<i>informed beliefs</i>

1343
01:08:45,727 --> 01:08:48,096
<i>into the story Chris Mellon</i>
<i>had revealed,</i>

1344
01:08:48,128 --> 01:08:51,264
<i>-Mellon said this,</i>
-There aren't many people

1345
01:08:51,298 --> 01:08:55,737
associated with
the establishment
who are so bold

1346
01:08:55,770 --> 01:08:59,974
and willing to make
statements like that.

1347
01:09:00,008 --> 01:09:05,079
Many of the Navy pilots
themselves who've engaged
these crafts

1348
01:09:05,113 --> 01:09:09,249
go there because they can't
conceive of any
other explanation, frankly.

1349
01:09:09,282 --> 01:09:12,854
NARRATOR: <i>When Lue Elizondo</i>
<i>was asked about</i>
<i>Bigelow statements,</i>

1350
01:09:12,887 --> 01:09:15,990
<i>his response corroborated</i>
<i>Bigelow's position.</i>

1351
01:09:16,024 --> 01:09:18,993
He has his own space stations
in space.

1352
01:09:19,027 --> 01:09:20,227
<i>People say</i>
<i>"What do you mean?"</i>

1353
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:24,264
<i>Yeah, he has his own,</i>
<i>right now, in space.</i>

1354
01:09:24,297 --> 01:09:27,334
I mean, I don't know who else
has done that, and by the way,

1355
01:09:27,367 --> 01:09:31,773
he's done it for a long time,
so give the guy some credit.

1356
01:09:31,806 --> 01:09:33,608
He knows
what he's talking about.

1357
01:09:35,810 --> 01:09:39,814
They have stated flatly
"They're not one of ours."

1358
01:09:39,847 --> 01:09:42,917
Then the question is,
whose are they?

1359
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:45,352
NARRATOR: <i>All of</i>
<i>the people involved in</i>
<i>the current narrative</i>

1360
01:09:45,385 --> 01:09:47,121
<i>are deliberately</i>
<i>stopping short</i>

1361
01:09:47,155 --> 01:09:52,259
<i>of identifying the phenomenon</i>
<i>as originating</i>
<i>from extraterrestrials.</i>

1362
01:09:52,292 --> 01:09:56,664
We have all these tales
going back centuries, millennia,

1363
01:09:56,698 --> 01:09:59,934
about visitations
and strange beings.

1364
01:09:59,967 --> 01:10:04,404
Maybe it's a record of visits
from alien civilizations.

1365
01:10:04,438 --> 01:10:08,810
<i>You can't rule out the fact</i>
<i>that, yeah, maybe we have</i>
<i>been visited in the past.</i>

1366
01:10:08,843 --> 01:10:10,178
<i>You can't rule it out.</i>

1367
01:10:10,210 --> 01:10:14,048
So you say one by one,
they're not natural phenomena.

1368
01:10:15,449 --> 01:10:16,851
They're not weather balloons.

1369
01:10:16,884 --> 01:10:18,119
They're not U.S. technology.

1370
01:10:18,152 --> 01:10:19,987
They're not Russian.
They're not Chinese.

1371
01:10:20,922 --> 01:10:22,489
They're not optical illusions.

1372
01:10:22,523 --> 01:10:26,094
They're not mental illness
on the part of the people
who report them.

1373
01:10:26,127 --> 01:10:28,796
Because these are our most
highly trained experts

1374
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:30,832
who are reporting these things,
and they've been caught on,

1375
01:10:30,865 --> 01:10:35,703
as I said, Navy instrumentation.
So what are you left with?

1376
01:10:35,737 --> 01:10:37,270
Well, no one is going there.

1377
01:10:37,304 --> 01:10:40,307
Our view is, let's follow
the trail wherever it leads.

1378
01:10:40,340 --> 01:10:41,241
Let's get the data,

1379
01:10:41,274 --> 01:10:43,276
the best evidence possible.

1380
01:10:43,310 --> 01:10:46,981
There's probably more
than one phenomenon
at work here.

1381
01:10:47,014 --> 01:10:49,684
NARRATOR: <i>They refused</i>
<i>to say the "A" word.</i>

1382
01:10:50,383 --> 01:10:53,054
<i>Alien. Why?</i>

1383
01:10:53,087 --> 01:10:56,758
You know, assuming that
these things are
all of alien origin...

1384
01:10:58,826 --> 01:11:01,863
for a variety reasons,
in part because
people shut down

1385
01:11:01,896 --> 01:11:07,101
and it impedes our progress
and some of the allies

1386
01:11:07,135 --> 01:11:09,604
and people that we need
to bring to bear,

1387
01:11:09,637 --> 01:11:12,472
who are sort of
now getting on board,

1388
01:11:12,507 --> 01:11:16,944
wouldn't do so if we started
with the premise that
these are aliens.

1389
01:11:16,978 --> 01:11:19,647
I think the word alien
is a little...

1390
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,282
People are afraid of
the word alien.

1391
01:11:22,315 --> 01:11:25,686
You know, E.T,
extraterrestrial, non-humans.

1392
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,689
I've always concerned about

1393
01:11:28,723 --> 01:11:33,928
getting ahead of
our headlights, frankly,

1394
01:11:33,961 --> 01:11:36,296
and leaping to conclusions.

1395
01:11:36,329 --> 01:11:39,200
For me, it's more of
the thrill of the hunt.

1396
01:11:39,233 --> 01:11:42,270
It's trying to figure out
the unknowns

1397
01:11:42,302 --> 01:11:46,774
because once they are known,
they are no longer a mystery.

1398
01:11:46,808 --> 01:11:48,943
What it is,
no one's admitted yet.

1399
01:11:48,976 --> 01:11:51,212
And you've got
plenty of video evidence

1400
01:11:51,245 --> 01:11:56,349
of Lue and Chris
not admitting it
because they can't say it.

1401
01:11:56,383 --> 01:11:58,920
But they've said it
in as many ways
as you can.

1402
01:11:58,953 --> 01:12:02,156
Just anybody bright enough
to listen,

1403
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:05,092
will, as you say,
understand the accidental truth.

1404
01:12:13,201 --> 01:12:19,472
NARRATOR: <i>During the interview</i>
<i>in 2018, Lue Elizondo</i>
<i>gave us an accidental truth.</i>

1405
01:12:19,507 --> 01:12:22,710
JAMES: So,
you've spoken about
some of the technologies

1406
01:12:22,743 --> 01:12:25,313
that are being studied
as a spin off the research

1407
01:12:25,345 --> 01:12:26,948
you did at AATIP.

1408
01:12:26,981 --> 01:12:32,086
Things like bending space-time,
and Einstein type possibilities
that may unfold.

1409
01:12:32,119 --> 01:12:34,989
Is there an interdimensional
element to any of this

1410
01:12:35,022 --> 01:12:37,825
that you guys maybe explored?

1411
01:12:38,826 --> 01:12:40,628
Other dimensions
may absolutely exist.

1412
01:12:40,661 --> 01:12:42,997
You look at String Theory,
look at M Theory,

1413
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:45,533
dimensions are all around us.

1414
01:12:45,566 --> 01:12:50,771
So I think you have to
cast a wide net
when you're looking at this.

1415
01:12:50,805 --> 01:12:53,241
And that's why I've said before,
whether they're
from outer space,

1416
01:12:53,274 --> 01:12:54,909
inner space
or the space in between,

1417
01:12:54,942 --> 01:12:58,179
we just don't know,
and we need to collect
more data.

1418
01:12:58,212 --> 01:13:00,882
Is it possible?
Absolutely, it's possible.

1419
01:13:00,915 --> 01:13:03,684
Is it possible that
they're from the Pleiades? Sure.

1420
01:13:03,718 --> 01:13:04,986
Is it possible that
they're from...

1421
01:13:05,019 --> 01:13:06,988
They've been here all along
and they're from here,

1422
01:13:07,021 --> 01:13:10,423
they're just resonating
at a different vibration?

1423
01:13:10,457 --> 01:13:12,226
Sure.

1424
01:13:12,260 --> 01:13:15,529
JAMES: It seems like
the only question
that is answered

1425
01:13:15,563 --> 01:13:17,265
in the ones you just posed,

1426
01:13:17,298 --> 01:13:21,269
is that whether or not,
there is an actual "They."

1427
01:13:21,802 --> 01:13:23,871
That's a great question.

1428
01:13:23,905 --> 01:13:25,438
I don't know
if I can answer that.

1429
01:13:27,875 --> 01:13:31,312
NARRATOR: <i>A few seem willing</i>
<i>to officially pronounce</i>
<i>the phenomenon</i>

1430
01:13:31,345 --> 01:13:34,248
<i>as originating</i>
<i>from extraterrestrials.</i>

1431
01:13:34,282 --> 01:13:36,317
<i>There is a willingness</i>
<i>to concede</i>

1432
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:39,419
<i>that there might be</i>
<i>extraterrestrial involvement.</i>

1433
01:13:39,452 --> 01:13:41,421
You know, what's here
is probably just an A.I.

1434
01:13:41,454 --> 01:13:45,993
I mean, why spend all your time
on one little planet

1435
01:13:46,027 --> 01:13:48,663
out in a dust speck
at the edge of the galaxy?

1436
01:13:48,696 --> 01:13:50,497
You send your robots.

1437
01:13:50,531 --> 01:13:54,101
The question is,
what's our definition of life?

1438
01:13:54,135 --> 01:13:57,738
I think life may exist,
may exist,

1439
01:13:57,772 --> 01:14:02,076
and I'll caveat that,
in all sorts of forms.

1440
01:14:02,109 --> 01:14:03,844
I don't think it's necessarily
going to be

1441
01:14:03,878 --> 01:14:08,916
something that we might
recognize or even initially
even classify as life.

1442
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:11,218
Because we don't have
a full understanding of it.

1443
01:14:11,252 --> 01:14:13,187
NARRATOR: <i>There is</i>
<i>a growing consensus</i>

1444
01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:15,756
<i>that the</i>
<i>extraterrestrial hypothesis</i>

1445
01:14:15,790 --> 01:14:17,858
<i>doesn't answer all</i>
<i>of the questions.</i>

1446
01:14:17,892 --> 01:14:22,363
<i>There are multiple phenomena</i>
<i>at work, that cannot be</i>
<i>explained completely</i>

1447
01:14:22,396 --> 01:14:24,565
<i>without looking at</i>
<i>other possibilities.</i>

1448
01:14:24,598 --> 01:14:27,635
Maybe there's a whole range
of different phenomena
at play here.

1449
01:14:27,668 --> 01:14:33,708
In fact, I think, given
the differences in what's been
reported by people,

1450
01:14:33,741 --> 01:14:38,913
that's quite likely that
there are many different
parallel strands to this.

1451
01:14:38,946 --> 01:14:42,516
But whatever is involved,
and as I say, I don't know,

1452
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:48,723
I think it does raise important
defense, national security
and air safety issues.

1453
01:14:48,756 --> 01:14:53,728
The E.T. hypothesis,
for instance,
is a logical starting point.

1454
01:14:53,761 --> 01:14:55,529
If not from here, from where?

1455
01:14:55,563 --> 01:14:59,499
Until you start
talking about, well,
what do you mean, where?

1456
01:14:59,533 --> 01:15:05,306
We think that an object
is solid and can only be
one place at the same time.

1457
01:15:05,339 --> 01:15:09,810
But in quantum mechanics,
electrons can be two places
at the same time.

1458
01:15:09,844 --> 01:15:11,479
In fact, they can be
many places,

1459
01:15:11,512 --> 01:15:14,515
and this is called
the multiverse idea.

1460
01:15:14,548 --> 01:15:19,020
The idea that we exist
with other universes
simultaneously.

1461
01:15:19,553 --> 01:15:20,588
Well, wait a minute.

1462
01:15:20,621 --> 01:15:24,091
We're talking about
multi-dimensional realities.

1463
01:15:24,125 --> 01:15:26,027
But doesn't really matter
how far you go

1464
01:15:26,060 --> 01:15:28,362
in a three-dimensional space
and distance,

1465
01:15:28,396 --> 01:15:32,099
that there are shortcuts,
and those shortcuts exist

1466
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,202
as part of the natural universe.

1467
01:15:35,236 --> 01:15:37,538
So that is a real world example
where we know

1468
01:15:38,806 --> 01:15:40,608
other dimensions
may absolutely exist.

1469
01:15:40,641 --> 01:15:46,881
Whether it's extraterrestrial
or interdimensional,
to me, is irrelevant

1470
01:15:46,914 --> 01:15:49,550
because whatever it is,
clearly has

1471
01:15:49,583 --> 01:15:53,154
the ability to manipulate
dimensionality.

1472
01:15:53,187 --> 01:15:58,459
These things can
jump in and out,
appear, disappear.

1473
01:15:58,492 --> 01:16:02,196
And so, for all intents
and purposes, it's both.

1474
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:07,668
NARRATOR: <i>In August of 2022,</i>
<i>Dr. Hal Puthoff released</i>
<i>a paper in which he explored</i>

1475
01:16:07,701 --> 01:16:10,404
<i>other options</i>
<i>for what may be at work.</i>

1476
01:16:10,438 --> 01:16:14,543
<i>He presented</i>
<i>concepts such as</i>
<i>ultra-terrestrial beings.</i>

1477
01:16:14,575 --> 01:16:18,813
<i>The concept that</i>
<i>there could be another</i>
<i>intelligent race living with us</i>

1478
01:16:18,846 --> 01:16:21,115
<i>inside the Earth</i>
<i>or under water.</i>

1479
01:16:21,148 --> 01:16:23,984
<i>A civilization</i>
<i>with advanced technology,</i>

1480
01:16:24,018 --> 01:16:26,854
<i>that has been here,</i>
<i>long before us.</i>

1481
01:16:26,887 --> 01:16:28,656
<i>Time travelers.</i>

1482
01:16:28,689 --> 01:16:32,693
<i>While mainstream science</i>
<i>debates the feasibility</i>
<i>of time travel,</i>

1483
01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:35,129
<i>it still remains a possibility.</i>

1484
01:16:35,162 --> 01:16:38,833
Some people say that the aliens
don't come from Mars,

1485
01:16:38,866 --> 01:16:40,868
they don't come
from a distant star.

1486
01:16:40,901 --> 01:16:43,337
They come from a different time.

1487
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:45,773
Well, I'm open
to all sorts of ideas,

1488
01:16:45,806 --> 01:16:47,741
as long as they are testable.

1489
01:16:47,775 --> 01:16:53,280
Our notion of time and space
is flawed, seriously.

1490
01:16:53,314 --> 01:16:56,183
And you're entering
issues where

1491
01:16:56,217 --> 01:16:58,853
there is no time
and there is no space.

1492
01:16:58,886 --> 01:17:01,255
You've got man-made craft.

1493
01:17:01,288 --> 01:17:04,325
You've got possible
extraterrestrial.

1494
01:17:04,358 --> 01:17:06,026
You've got interdimensional.

1495
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:07,529
You've got...

1496
01:17:07,562 --> 01:17:10,331
Hmm. A pre-existing
high tech civilization

1497
01:17:10,364 --> 01:17:12,299
that could have been
on this planet
for thousands of years.

1498
01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:13,934
And when you wrap
this all together,

1499
01:17:13,968 --> 01:17:17,404
you can see how confusing it is
because a lot of
these things merge.

1500
01:17:19,340 --> 01:17:22,143
NARRATOR: <i>Some of the</i>
<i>phenomena seemed to point</i>

1501
01:17:22,176 --> 01:17:25,547
<i>to a direct interaction,</i>
<i>with consciousness.</i>

1502
01:17:25,580 --> 01:17:30,885
Well, the consciousness
is interacting in
all aspects of it.

1503
01:17:30,918 --> 01:17:32,653
And to take it a step farther,

1504
01:17:32,686 --> 01:17:36,090
going to Max Planck,
suggests that maybe

1505
01:17:36,123 --> 01:17:40,861
the physical evolved
from consciousness,

1506
01:17:40,895 --> 01:17:42,796
as opposed to
the other way around.

1507
01:17:49,937 --> 01:17:52,541
NARRATOR: <i>As part of developing</i>
<i>new understandings,</i>

1508
01:17:52,574 --> 01:17:56,443
<i>it's hard to ignore</i>
<i>the so-called experience</i>
<i>or phenomenon.</i>

1509
01:17:56,477 --> 01:17:59,146
<i>A significant percentage</i>
<i>of the population</i>

1510
01:17:59,180 --> 01:18:02,517
<i>report having encounters</i>
<i>with non-human beings.</i>

1511
01:18:02,551 --> 01:18:06,521
<i>These encounters range</i>
<i>from enlightening</i>
<i>to terrifying,</i>

1512
01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:12,159
Many, many, many people
have had some very
strange experiences.

1513
01:18:12,193 --> 01:18:17,064
Either seeing UFOs,
and not just at night
while they were dreaming.

1514
01:18:17,097 --> 01:18:19,668
These are not nightmares.

1515
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:24,371
These are often described
as more real
than everyday reality.

1516
01:18:24,405 --> 01:18:27,408
The people who describe it,
these people are solid.

1517
01:18:27,441 --> 01:18:29,376
They come from
all walks of life.

1518
01:18:29,410 --> 01:18:32,947
NARRATOR: <i>Ralph Blumenthal</i>
<i>wrote a book about the late</i>
<i>Harvard psychologist John Mack,</i>

1519
01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:34,848
<i>called</i> The Believer.

1520
01:18:34,882 --> 01:18:37,351
<i>Mack was one of the first</i>
<i>members of academia</i>

1521
01:18:37,384 --> 01:18:40,754
<i>to acknowledge the validity of</i>
<i>the experience or phenomenon.</i>

1522
01:18:40,788 --> 01:18:44,358
John Mack investigated
these stories of people
who said that this and this

1523
01:18:44,391 --> 01:18:48,229
happened to them,
and at least Mack,
as a psychiatrist,

1524
01:18:48,262 --> 01:18:52,199
was able to evaluate
their stories to the...

1525
01:18:52,233 --> 01:18:56,804
Couldn't prove that this
happened or didn't happen,
but at least could say that

1526
01:18:56,837 --> 01:19:00,941
these people were solid people
and were not mentally ill.

1527
01:19:02,510 --> 01:19:06,146
We interface with
whatever this is.

1528
01:19:06,180 --> 01:19:08,449
Contactees, abductees.

1529
01:19:08,482 --> 01:19:12,219
I think we can create
some of the phenomenon itself.

1530
01:19:12,253 --> 01:19:16,423
So I do believe that there are
certain individuals
on this planet

1531
01:19:16,457 --> 01:19:20,427
who are more in tune,
are more intuitive,

1532
01:19:20,461 --> 01:19:23,732
are more in touch
with the unseen world

1533
01:19:23,764 --> 01:19:25,266
than the seen world.

1534
01:19:25,299 --> 01:19:28,335
Some of us are able
to pierce the veil

1535
01:19:28,369 --> 01:19:31,272
and connect with whatever
is going on out there.

1536
01:19:33,575 --> 01:19:36,277
NARRATOR: <i>Stunning new research</i>
<i>by Dr Gary Nolan,</i>

1537
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:38,946
<i>has revealed a trait in</i>
<i>the human brain</i>

1538
01:19:38,979 --> 01:19:41,982
<i>that may make some people</i>
<i>more prone to abilities,</i>

1539
01:19:42,016 --> 01:19:45,553
<i>such as heightened intuition,</i>
<i>psychic abilities,</i>

1540
01:19:45,587 --> 01:19:50,157
<i>and possibly an ability</i>
<i>to communicate</i>
<i>in undeveloped manners,</i>

1541
01:19:50,190 --> 01:19:51,458
<i>such as telepathy.</i>

1542
01:19:51,492 --> 01:19:55,630
We had MRIs of claimed
remote viewers,

1543
01:19:56,230 --> 01:19:58,633
high-end remote viewers,

1544
01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:03,370
and this area of their brain
lit up like a Christmas tree.

1545
01:20:03,404 --> 01:20:07,441
NARRATOR: <i>The condition has</i>
<i>been observed in so-called</i>
<i>"Experiencers."</i>

1546
01:20:07,474 --> 01:20:10,844
<i>Nolan has detected</i>
<i>increased activity</i>
<i>and development</i>

1547
01:20:10,878 --> 01:20:13,814
<i>in a region of the brain</i>
<i>called the basal ganglia.</i>

1548
01:20:13,847 --> 01:20:16,183
NOLAN: <i>The thing that</i>
<i>got me really intrigued</i>

1549
01:20:16,216 --> 01:20:20,921
<i>was that we did have MRIs</i>
<i>from experiencers,</i>

1550
01:20:20,954 --> 01:20:24,925
but these were
high functioning individuals
that we happened to notice

1551
01:20:24,958 --> 01:20:29,963
that an area of their brain,
had a density in it

1552
01:20:29,997 --> 01:20:33,000
that we first thought was
damaged because we were studying
damage at the moment.

1553
01:20:33,033 --> 01:20:37,071
But then we realized,
this is not damaged.
This is living tissue.

1554
01:20:37,104 --> 01:20:39,808
And that became sort of
a side discovery.

1555
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,243
<i>You're left then</i>
<i>with, frankly,</i>
<i>what was</i>

1556
01:20:43,277 --> 01:20:45,979
<i>an even less uniform</i>
<i>group of individuals</i>

1557
01:20:46,013 --> 01:20:51,885
<i>with such varied interactions.</i>
<i>Things that</i>
<i>we're talking to them,</i>

1558
01:20:51,919 --> 01:20:55,557
<i>things that they had</i>
<i>gotten close to and had</i>
<i>been damaged and harmed.</i>

1559
01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:58,492
<i>And there were a couple</i>
<i>of people in that group</i>
<i>who were harmed.</i>

1560
01:20:58,526 --> 01:21:00,928
<i>But of the remaining</i>
<i>individuals,</i>

1561
01:21:00,961 --> 01:21:04,198
<i>I would say that the majority</i>
<i>of them were not harmed.</i>

1562
01:21:04,231 --> 01:21:09,571
<i>This area of the brain,</i>
<i>that we came to the conclusion</i>
<i>at the time</i>

1563
01:21:09,604 --> 01:21:11,405
<i>was probably involved</i>
<i>in intuition,</i>

1564
01:21:11,438 --> 01:21:13,775
<i>when we actually</i>
<i>looked into it,</i>

1565
01:21:13,808 --> 01:21:15,677
<i>and then looked into</i>
<i>the literature,</i>

1566
01:21:15,710 --> 01:21:17,311
<i>believe it or not,</i>
<i>people were finding that</i>

1567
01:21:17,344 --> 01:21:19,046
<i>it had something to do</i>
<i>with intuition.</i>

1568
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:22,116
And that's the basal ganglia.

1569
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:24,719
This area, the caudate putamen,

1570
01:21:24,753 --> 01:21:27,988
which is, you know,
by many neurophysiologist

1571
01:21:28,021 --> 01:21:29,456
called the brain
within the brain.

1572
01:21:29,490 --> 01:21:31,593
NARRATOR: <i>What Dr. Nolan</i>
<i>has discovered</i>

1573
01:21:31,626 --> 01:21:34,662
<i>may represent a leap</i>
<i>in human evolution</i>

1574
01:21:34,696 --> 01:21:38,031
<i>or even a new variation</i>
<i>of Homo sapien.</i>

1575
01:21:38,065 --> 01:21:43,605
You have to ask the question
"What kind of information

1576
01:21:43,638 --> 01:21:48,976
"is being perceived
and how is it
being translated into,

1577
01:21:49,009 --> 01:21:52,479
<i>"let's say, traditional</i>
<i>neuro-physiologic pathways?"</i>

1578
01:21:53,313 --> 01:21:56,350
<i>We don't understand...</i>

1579
01:21:56,383 --> 01:21:59,219
<i>space time the way</i>
<i>we'd like to pretend we do.</i>

1580
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:05,794
And so, who is to say
that there is not some kind
of information transfer

1581
01:22:05,827 --> 01:22:08,696
that we just don't
necessarily yet appreciate,

1582
01:22:08,730 --> 01:22:11,566
but evolution has found
a way to latch onto.

1583
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:21,241
NARRATOR: <i>The people that</i>
<i>we've met since 2017</i>

1584
01:22:21,275 --> 01:22:23,043
<i>seemed to have</i>
<i>some genuine interest</i>

1585
01:22:23,076 --> 01:22:27,014
<i>in helping to make humanity</i>
<i> more aware of these realities.</i>

1586
01:22:27,047 --> 01:22:30,951
<i>Chris Mellon continues to work</i>
<i>quietly behind the scenes</i>

1587
01:22:30,984 --> 01:22:34,288
<i>to bring about an effective</i>
<i>means of disclosure.</i>

1588
01:22:34,321 --> 01:22:36,891
Very much changing
within the government,

1589
01:22:36,925 --> 01:22:40,060
on the Hill
and the executive branch,

1590
01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:42,664
as well as you can see
with the media lately.

1591
01:22:42,697 --> 01:22:44,866
It's becoming respectable
and legitimate,

1592
01:22:44,899 --> 01:22:48,502
and that's so crucial
to engaging more minds
and more energy,

1593
01:22:48,536 --> 01:22:50,638
and more resources
to getting to
the bottom of this.

1594
01:22:50,672 --> 01:22:52,439
NARRATOR: <i>Lue Elizondo</i>
<i>seems to have put</i>

1595
01:22:52,473 --> 01:22:54,609
<i>everything on the line</i>
<i>since going public.</i>

1596
01:22:54,642 --> 01:22:58,045
So if there's an issue where
the government is doing
something we don't want to

1597
01:22:58,078 --> 01:23:00,682
then it's up to us
as a people to change that.

1598
01:23:00,715 --> 01:23:03,551
But it doesn't have to be
an adversarial relationship.

1599
01:23:03,585 --> 01:23:07,454
I think where we go wrong is
that people often times look
at the government, they say,

1600
01:23:07,488 --> 01:23:09,423
"Oh, the government's bad,
the government's bad."

1601
01:23:09,456 --> 01:23:13,227
NARRATOR: <i>His role in AATIP</i>
<i>has been challenged by the</i>
<i>Defense Intelligence Agency.</i>

1602
01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:15,996
<i>Lue fought back by hiring</i>
<i>one of the most effective</i>

1603
01:23:16,029 --> 01:23:19,767
<i>and well known</i>
<i>civil rights attorneys</i>
<i>in the field, Danny Sheehan.</i>

1604
01:23:19,801 --> 01:23:25,138
I was contacted by Lue Elizondo
and asked to represent him

1605
01:23:25,172 --> 01:23:27,040
because he was upset

1606
01:23:27,074 --> 01:23:29,209
about the fact that the Pentagon

1607
01:23:29,243 --> 01:23:32,212
even after
the publication of this

1608
01:23:32,246 --> 01:23:35,349
on December 16th and 17th
of 2017,

1609
01:23:35,382 --> 01:23:40,522
there were officials inside
the Pentagon issuing
completely false statements,

1610
01:23:40,555 --> 01:23:42,991
still, saying,
"Yeah, there's no such thing

1611
01:23:43,023 --> 01:23:46,460
"as the Advanced Aerospace
Identification Program."

1612
01:23:46,493 --> 01:23:49,296
NARRATOR: <i>Together,</i>
<i>they approached the</i>
<i>Inspector General</i>

1613
01:23:49,329 --> 01:23:51,064
<i>of the Defense</i>
<i>Intelligence Agency</i>

1614
01:23:51,098 --> 01:23:55,335
<i>to reverse the Pentagon's</i>
<i>failure to acknowledge</i>
<i>Elizondo's position.</i>

1615
01:23:55,369 --> 01:24:00,374
When Elizondo started,
talking about this
phenomenon publicly,

1616
01:24:00,407 --> 01:24:04,579
you can see the Pentagon had
tremendous pushback against him.

1617
01:24:05,145 --> 01:24:06,113
They lied.

1618
01:24:06,146 --> 01:24:08,382
They said "No,
he didn't run such a program."

1619
01:24:08,415 --> 01:24:09,584
That was a lie.

1620
01:24:09,617 --> 01:24:11,653
They said AATIP
had nothing to do with UFOs.

1621
01:24:11,686 --> 01:24:13,922
-That was a lie.
-We were trying
at the same time,

1622
01:24:13,955 --> 01:24:16,958
trying to determine
what Lue can say

1623
01:24:16,991 --> 01:24:20,093
in light of his
security clearances,
you know, publicly.

1624
01:24:20,127 --> 01:24:24,832
Not long ago,
Elizondo supposedly
said to his attorney

1625
01:24:24,866 --> 01:24:27,001
that he had seen
a flying saucer in a hanger.

1626
01:24:27,035 --> 01:24:32,072
That gets out and
the stuff hits the fan.

1627
01:24:32,105 --> 01:24:34,809
<i>And, you know,</i>
<i>Lue had to walk</i>
<i>that back too.</i>

1628
01:24:34,842 --> 01:24:37,011
<i>What did he do?</i>
<i>He said,</i>
<i>"Well, you know,</i>

1629
01:24:37,045 --> 01:24:39,514
"I went to a hangar
that was designed

1630
01:24:39,547 --> 01:24:42,817
"to accommodate
exotic materials,
but I didn't see anything there.

1631
01:24:42,850 --> 01:24:46,821
"I never saw any intact craft."
He was like, very lawyerly

1632
01:24:46,854 --> 01:24:49,557
in how he said what he did
because he had to.

1633
01:24:49,591 --> 01:24:53,828
I guess I'm just
genetically pre-disposed
to not trusting government

1634
01:24:53,861 --> 01:24:56,864
and seeing it now, too,
it's just a joke.

1635
01:24:56,898 --> 01:24:57,832
It really is.

1636
01:24:59,701 --> 01:25:02,770
NARRATOR: <i>MUFON,</i>
<i>The Mutual UFO Network</i>

1637
01:25:02,804 --> 01:25:06,975
<i>is the largest and oldest</i>
<i>UFO organization in the world.</i>

1638
01:25:07,008 --> 01:25:10,678
<i>After over 50 years,</i>
<i>MUFON is stronger than ever.</i>

1639
01:25:11,746 --> 01:25:14,515
I'm Ron James.
It's March 11th 2022.

1640
01:25:14,549 --> 01:25:16,050
I'm here in front of
the White House.

1641
01:25:16,084 --> 01:25:19,419
It's been a historic week
for the UFO community
and for MUFON,

1642
01:25:19,453 --> 01:25:20,788
the Mutual UFO Network.

1643
01:25:20,822 --> 01:25:23,390
We have actually been taking
meetings all week long

1644
01:25:23,423 --> 01:25:27,662
with key members and staff
of the House and Senate
intelligence committees

1645
01:25:27,695 --> 01:25:29,530
regarding the UAP phenomenon.

1646
01:25:29,564 --> 01:25:32,100
We've been here
for three days now, four days,

1647
01:25:32,132 --> 01:25:35,937
and have met with about
10 different officials,

1648
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:41,576
congressmen, representatives
staff and senators,

1649
01:25:41,609 --> 01:25:44,746
and we've really had
a tremendous welcome.

1650
01:25:44,779 --> 01:25:47,882
NARRATOR: <i>Thousands of people</i>
<i>over 100 years or more,</i>

1651
01:25:47,915 --> 01:25:51,786
<i>have challenged</i>
<i>the official deception</i>
<i>around the UFO topic.</i>

1652
01:25:51,819 --> 01:25:54,287
<i>They have been ridiculed</i>
<i>and debunked.</i>

1653
01:25:54,321 --> 01:25:56,958
<i>Today, they are beginning</i>
<i>to be vindicated,</i>

1654
01:25:56,991 --> 01:25:59,493
<i>but still have not</i>
<i>accomplished their goal.</i>

1655
01:25:59,527 --> 01:26:02,396
<i>A total end to</i>
<i>the UFO cover-up.</i>

1656
01:26:02,429 --> 01:26:05,800
There is no way to inform
the American people
writ large,

1657
01:26:05,833 --> 01:26:09,137
all 500 million of us,
and ensure that information

1658
01:26:09,169 --> 01:26:11,606
is not going to get into
the hands of
a foreign adversary.

1659
01:26:11,639 --> 01:26:14,108
Maybe it's that
there are some elements

1660
01:26:14,142 --> 01:26:17,244
of the technology
that has to be kept under wraps

1661
01:26:17,277 --> 01:26:21,582
or kept to a limited number
of people because

1662
01:26:21,616 --> 01:26:23,851
if you cross the wires,
bad things happen.

1663
01:26:23,885 --> 01:26:28,056
This is a version of disclosure.

1664
01:26:28,089 --> 01:26:29,891
But is it going to be
the real truth?

1665
01:26:29,924 --> 01:26:31,959
And, I mean, I don't care

1666
01:26:31,993 --> 01:26:33,995
about anything except
what the actual truth is.

1667
01:26:34,028 --> 01:26:35,730
So, we'll see
if they can get there.

1668
01:26:35,763 --> 01:26:38,498
They could say, for example,
down the road,

1669
01:26:38,533 --> 01:26:43,071
"Well, actually, yeah.
We have had a few reports
down the road,

1670
01:26:43,104 --> 01:26:45,640
"over the years,
but we kept it quiet because,

1671
01:26:45,673 --> 01:26:48,241
"honestly, we needed
to avoid public panic."

1672
01:26:48,275 --> 01:26:49,544
They'll say that.

1673
01:26:49,577 --> 01:26:54,314
At a societal level,
I believe that we are
completely ready

1674
01:26:54,347 --> 01:26:57,484
to incorporate this new reality,

1675
01:26:57,518 --> 01:27:02,023
and if the President
were to go on

1676
01:27:02,056 --> 01:27:05,526
the evening news today
and say, "My fellow Americans,

1677
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,061
"people of the world,
we're not alone,"

1678
01:27:07,095 --> 01:27:11,331
I think the reaction
would be sorta two-fold.

1679
01:27:11,364 --> 01:27:14,102
Obviously, there would be
a huge interest in it,

1680
01:27:14,135 --> 01:27:17,538
but actually there wouldn't
be panic in the streets.

1681
01:27:17,572 --> 01:27:21,109
So to be part of that journey,

1682
01:27:21,142 --> 01:27:25,847
to uncover and to show links
to this advanced civilization,

1683
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,784
that would be a great honor,
because as a scientist,

1684
01:27:29,817 --> 01:27:32,053
you go where the data takes you.

1685
01:27:32,086 --> 01:27:35,857
And sometimes the data
takes you to places that
are uncomfortable.

1686
01:27:35,890 --> 01:27:38,358
But, hey, that's the way
the cookie crumbles.

1687
01:27:38,391 --> 01:27:40,528
Yeah, I just... You know,
I'm going to get hit on it.

1688
01:27:40,561 --> 01:27:43,531
They told me. They said,
"Man, Burchett you need to
cool this stuff out

1689
01:27:43,564 --> 01:27:49,402
"because it's gonna
hurt us at the polls."
But we'll see.

1690
01:27:51,806 --> 01:27:54,909
NARRATOR: <i>We've shown</i>
<i>that even today</i>
<i>there is a narrative at work</i>

1691
01:27:54,942 --> 01:28:00,047
<i>that has been created to</i>
<i>manipulate public perception</i>
<i>about the UFO topic.</i>

1692
01:28:00,081 --> 01:28:02,683
<i>We are not alone</i>
<i>in the universe.</i>

1693
01:28:02,717 --> 01:28:06,353
<i>There are those</i>
<i>who have struggled</i>
<i>to keep this truth a secret.</i>

1694
01:28:06,386 --> 01:28:10,024
<i>But the proof of the deception</i>
<i>serves its own purpose</i>

1695
01:28:10,057 --> 01:28:12,760
<i>and tells us much more</i>
<i>than ever before.</i>

1696
01:28:12,794 --> 01:28:15,196
I have good news
and I have bad news.

1697
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:19,167
And the good news
is the government's
been telling you the truth.

1698
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,837
The bad news is
the government's been
telling you the truth.

1699
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:23,971
I mean, just look at Roswell.

1700
01:28:24,005 --> 01:28:25,873
There are no 509th
bomb group members left.

1701
01:28:25,907 --> 01:28:27,275
They're all dead.

1702
01:28:27,307 --> 01:28:30,511
So according to the government,
it's cover up complete.

1703
01:28:30,545 --> 01:28:32,914
All right, then what did I see
out there in that field?

1704
01:28:33,413 --> 01:28:34,816
Oh, that...

1705
01:28:36,984 --> 01:28:39,020
Why, that was a weather balloon.